Miriam BooshNov 24, 2023
- 7,200 Palestinians are being held as prisoners in Israel.
- 250 of the prisoners are children
- 4 in 10 Palestinian men have spent time in Israeli prisons
- 1.3 million Palestinians have been displaced in a month
- 14,500 Palestinians have been murdered
- 6,000 children have been murdered
Show threadKarl Schwartz, Artist advocateNov 24, 2023
@Miriamm cite your source please.
Show threadMiriam BooshNov 24, 2023
@lymphomation https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/22/the-guardian-view-on-a-ceasefire-in-gaza-a-step-forward-but-this-is-far-from-over https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/22/officials-list-300-palestinians-to-be-freed-under-hostage-deal
The Guardian view on a ceasefire in Gaza: a step forward, but this is far from over

Editorial: Although the release of hostages and a pause in violence are essential in such desperate times, this is not a lasting solution

The Guardian
Show threadVolineNov 24, 2023
@Miriamm @lymphomation
Thank you. Shows respect for your readers.
Show threadKarl Schwartz, Artist advocateNov 24, 2023

@Voline @Miriamm

OCHA shows tragic fatalities on both sides:
https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

Is it fair to say?

There would be no Palestinian fatalities without the war: if Hamas did not brutally attack civilians without warning or mercy. And fewer if they did not use a hospital as a shield.

Fair to say? It's unknown how often Hamas would repeat the attack and how many Israel deaths there would be if Israel did not strike back.

PS I despise Netan-the-yahoo.

Data on casualties | United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - Occupied Palestinian Territory

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United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - Occupied Palestinian Territory
Show threadVolineNov 25, 2023

@lymphomation @Miriamm
"fewer if [Hamas] did not use a hospital as a shield.”

Your turn now, Karl. Cite your source please for this.

There would be and have been Palestinians before Hamas's attack on October 7. The blockade for prevented for years spare parts for incubators, dialysis machines, etc from entering Gaza. This results in death. Oh, but white collar murderers have clean hands.

Show threadKarl Schwartz, Artist advocate

@Voline @Miriamm

For me: the totality of the story below.

It rightly torches right wing factions in Israel.

But let's give "credit" where it's due.

Hamas is equally evil. It initiated the latest blood bath against civilians. Hamas knew Israel would have no choice but to respond and that the Palestinian people that they used as shields would die.

For me, the totality of the tragedy is well described here:

https://youtu.be/xAs5EOBUDcs

Rory Stewart Attempts to Explain the History of Israel-Palestine in 10 Minutes

YouTube
Nov 25, 2023 at 10:12amWeb