MicroWaveNov 21, 2023

Transgender players banned from international women’s cricket by ICC

https://lemmy.world/post/8567176

Transgender players banned from international women’s cricket by ICC - Lemmy.World

The International Cricket Council has become the latest sports body to ban transgender players from the elite women’s game if they have gone through male puberty. The ICC said it had taken the decision, following an extensive scientific review and nine-month consultation, to “protect the integrity of the international women’s game and the safety of players”. It joins rugby union, swimming, cycling, athletics and rugby league, who have all gone down a similar path in recent years after citing concerns over fairness or safety.

Show threadJinNov 22, 2023

Why did my comment get removed? Lol Men are biology stronger and faster than women that’s the truth. Biology born men will have an advance in women sports and ruin it for women.

Example “Serena williams lost to 203rd man”

My comment isn’t meant to X-phobic or ill intended. Be open to debate and not censorship on lemmy.

Show threadFranziaNov 22, 2023
Trans women aren’t biologically men.
Show threadJinNov 22, 2023
Sorry if my English is a bit weird. If they have the chromosomes (XY), then yes.
Show threadwafflezNov 22, 2023

Being a man is not xy chromosomes. It’s a social construct normally situated around expressing masculinity in general, with no clear foundation. If you’re referring to male/female, this is also a social construct that fails to account for chromosomes outside of the xx/xy chromosome binary.

Hormones are the biggest genuine factor when it comes to sports and transwomen have generally the same athleticism as ciswomen due to HRT; and vice versa with men.

Show threadJinNov 22, 2023

No, chromosomes are not a social construct. They are physical structures in cells that carry genetic information and play a fundamental role in biological processes, including determining an individual’s sex. The concept of chromosomes is grounded in biology and genetics, not social constructs.

You can spin it all you want, but women are getting destroyed in sports by transwomen because they have physique of a man like bone structure and muscle mass.

Show threadPotatoKat

XY are male right?

So males can give birth according to you

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190741/

Report of Fertility in a Woman with a Predominantly 46,XY Karyotype in a Family with Multiple Disorders of Sexual Development

Context: We report herein a remarkable family in which the mother of a woman with 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis was found to have a 46,XY karyotype in peripheral lymphocytes, mosaicism in cultured skin fibroblasts (80% 46,XY and 20% 45,X) and a predominantly ...

PubMed Central (PMC)
Nov 22, 2023 at 5:49amWeb
Show threadhungry_potatoNov 22, 2023
Artificially modified males whom you call trans men can be modifiedtog give birth. Doesn’t change theobjectiveity of what being a male is
Show threadPotatoKatNov 22, 2023

Tell me you didn’t read the link without telling me you didn’t read the link. The case study is from a woman who was born with a vagina and ovaries and gave birth but upon a genetic test was revealed to have XY chromosomes.

(here’s the part where you pretend to have read it all along in your response)

Show threadjordanlundNov 22, 2023
Removed for misinformation and transphobia.
Show threadpete_the_catNov 22, 2023

That’s a “rare” (or should I say “exclusive” since multiple family members have it?) mutation, being like “only XX females can give birth right? Shows link Checkmate transphobes!” isn’t really proving anything.

It’s as close to saying “people that can’t feel pain are superhumans” when they’re usually the opposite and have to live life in fear of constantly hurting themselves, sometimes severely, and being unaware of it.

Show threadPotatoKatNov 22, 2023

The point is that chromosomes are clearly not what deterimes sex if a female was born with XY chromosomes. Genetic mutations are a part of life and we literally can’t know the percentage of females born with XY without testing literally everyone. Your mom could be XY and you’d never know unless she got tested. So if chromosomes don’t determine sex what do? Saying it’s a genetic mutation is a thought terminating cliche and allows you to continue living life without thinking deeply on the subject. Which, imo, is pretty anti-science.

Genetic anomalies don’t at all make something invalid. Did you know red hair is/was a genetic mutation? Does that make red hair not a hair color?

“There’s only black brown and blonde everything else is a genetic mutation”

Show threadpete_the_catNov 22, 2023

Of course genetic mutations are a pretty common thing, but some are minor (like your red hair example), some are “WTF? How did that happen?” mutations, and some are straight up deadly like the various forms of cancer.

Women being XX is a classification (?) we’ve all agreed on because like 99.8% of people with XX chromosomes are women. Mutations are literally something out of the ordinary that shouldn’t happen.* A woman shouldn’t have XY chromosomes because almost every woman in history that we know of has XX chromosomes*.