VincentNov 21, 2023

YouTube Says New 5-Second Video Load Delay Is Supposed to Punish Ad Blockers, Not Firefox Users

Firefox users are reporting an 'artificial' load time on YouTube videos. YouTube says it's part of a plan to make people who use adblockers "experience suboptimal viewing, regardless of the browser they are using."

https://www.404media.co/youtube-says-new-5-second-video-load-delay-is-supposed-to-punish-ad-blockers-not-firefox-users/

YouTube Says New 5-Second Video Load Delay Is Supposed to Punish Ad Blockers, Not Firefox Users

Firefox users are reporting an 'artificial' load time on YouTube videos. YouTube says it's part of a plan to make people who use adblockers "experience suboptimal viewing, regardless of the browser they are using."

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Show threadCows Look Like MapsNov 21, 2023
A mass migration to a federated YouTube alternative couldn’t come sooner.
Show threadI_Comment_On_EVERYTHINGNov 21, 2023
I keep seeing people throw this idea out there but I have yet to have received a reasonable answer to a simple question: How would content creators get paid on a federated video platform?
Show threadMylesRyden

@I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING @CowsLookLikeMaps
Patreon?

Yes, content providers make money on YouTube, but considering that Google makes more than then they do as a percentage certainly begs for some other solution.

Nov 21, 2023 at 3:31pmWeb
Show threadI_Comment_On_EVERYTHINGNov 21, 2023

I have a bit over 60 YouTubers I’m subscribed to on YouTube. Am I supposed to pay $60+ every month to have access to them? The cheapest patreon I’ve ever seen was for $1 and that wasn’t even for full access just a “buy me coffee, thanks” tier.

What about discoverability, how am I supposed to randomly stumble across niche content creators that don’t have a huge following?

Not saying it isn’t possible I just can’t seem to wrap my head around how it would work.

Show threadMylesRydenNov 21, 2023

@I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING
To be honest, I don't know either.

But it sounds like you want to continue to use the YouTube services and algorithm. Which is fine, but can't exist without someone tracking everything you do.

Show threadAstridWipenaughNov 21, 2023
The other big question is who’s paying for the infrastructure? If payments are done through a third party like Patreon, the host can’t take a cut. Serving lemmy text and image content from a home server is one thing. Being a 4k streaming host is an entirely different business. Way more computing load and bandwidth, which means higher hosting costs.
Show threadFerkNov 22, 2023

Ideally, it would be a p2p protocol where the primary hoster is either the content creator directly, or a service paid by the content creator.

I believe there are many podcasts that work that way (well.. minus the p2p part).

Show threadnaughtNov 21, 2023
Instances could probably find ways to be ad supported or creators could do 3p sponsorships or ads in videos. Not everyone has to chip in to everything they subscribe to. It’s still impossibly hard compared to youtube though.
Show threadMylesRydenNov 21, 2023

@I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING
I will also say that I agree with you 100%. So, I am supposed to subscribe to the New York Times, Washington Post, Forbes, Netflix, Prime, any number of podcasts, and so on.

Not only do I not have that much money, but I don't have that level of organization to keep track of all of them.

I would agree that content delivery/payment is completely broken right now.

Show threadVincentNov 21, 2023
I think Nebula aims to solve that.
Show threadCoasting0942Nov 21, 2023
Patreon should offer a donation bank. Donate $10 a month. Then you can add patreons to the bank and the ten gets split equally between them?