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Fediverse is not Decentralized, and we need decentralized for true online freedom and privacy.

https://lemmy.world/post/8545158

Fediverse is not Decentralized, and we need decentralized for true online freedom and privacy. - Lemmy.World

I appreciate the functionality of the fediverse social network and believe that its structure has made a significant contribution to online freedom. However, it is essential to acknowledge that the fediverse has not fully addressed privacy concerns, and we still haven’t achieved complete freedom in terms of ownership of our accounts and content. Several issues persist: - Banning still occurs. - Content may disappear upon logging back in. - Email verification is required during registration, compromising anonymity. Each relay in the fediverse has an owner and a moderator with the power to control it, a situation that wouldn’t occur in a truly decentralized network where everyone is equal. Currently, WireMin seems to be the only platform in the market that I discovered has successfully balanced both online freedom and privacy. It offers: - Anonymous identity: No email address or phone number is required for account creation, allowing users to be anyone or no one on WireMin. - Assurances against banning, as stated in WireMin’s official FAQ. - The ability for users to remove feed posts or group messages, giving them control over their content. While WireMin may not have a large user base yet evidenced by the limited interesting chat and feed spaces, I believe this application has great potential, because it addresses the issues of online freedom and privacy that the fediverse lacked.

Nov 21, 2023 at 4:02amWeb
Show threadsoupcatNov 21, 2023
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Show threadBitSoundNov 21, 2023

It is decentralized. None of the issues you bring up are proof of centralization. If you get banned from one instance or don’t like email verification or whatever your beef is, find an instance with whatever policies you like. If you can’t find such an instance, start your own.

If nobody federates with you because your instance is full of people that got banned from everywhere else, that’s decentralization in action and maybe you should stop to consider if there’s a reason nobody wants to interact with you?

Show threadPons_AeliusNov 21, 2023

The only way to have complete privacy online is to never go online.

Anything else will always be a compromise.

Banning still occurs.

Don't want to be banned?

Create your own instance.

Content may disappear upon logging back in.

Don't want your posts to disappear?

Create your own instance.

Email verification is required during registration, compromising anonymity.

Don't want email verification?

Create your own instance.

Though if you do, enjoy having the trolls flock to your instance, use it to spam the fuck out of everyone else and be de-federated in short order.

How does wiremin deal with illegal content?

How does wiremin deal with spam?

How does wiremin deal with trolls?

Show threadmakingStuffForFunNov 21, 2023
You’re correct. There needs to be a balance. What if someone starts posting say sleazy creep photos of ladies etc? What then? You can’t leave it there. The poor ladies are being sexually assaulted in a way. That content has to come down, and fast. Self hosting is the way to go. You can then have the freedom, and face the responsibility.
Show threadJeenaNov 21, 2023
As long as you keep registrations closed you don’t need to deal with trolls flocking to your instance and being defederated.
Show threadTheAgeOfSuperboredomNov 21, 2023

I just can’t take anything seriously that puts such an emphasis on “free speech”.

The blog has a post about “Web 3”, so that’s a bit of a red flag as well.

I love how the top of the page mentions to ditch Facebook and twitter, but then there are links to them at the bottom. I get wanting to spread the word, but it just looks bad.

Also, no source code?

This whole thing just feels sketchy.

Show threadaidaNov 21, 2023

total anonimity is not necessary for privacy.

privacy ≠ anonymity

Show threadmintycactusNov 21, 2023
I installed it on android and it looks really abandoned… And useless. Ill keep it for a couple of days, but I allredy feel it is useless shit.
Show threadInEnduringGrowStrongNov 21, 2023
  • The fediverse is decentralized.
  • The alleged flaws have nothing to do with centralization.
  • Unmoderated anonymous online spaces turn to absolute cesspools of Spam, ads, CSAM, other pedo shit and various abusive material. Hell, moderating such spaces is already an uphill battle.
  • Sure, I’ll just install random unvetted software with no source code. Being gullible enough to install this thing can’t be fixed by joining a lemmy community about privacy.
    • Show threadMiku Luna \ she/itNov 21, 2023
    The contact email is just what looks like some dude’s gmail.
    Show threadmateomauiNov 21, 2023

    Currently, there are only English and Russian versions available.

    Interesting.

    Show threadmacnielNov 21, 2023
    So you want a Plattform that is free of consequences? Cool have fun with that cesspool.
    Show threadLWDNov 21, 2023

    Back on Reddit, Wiremin was spammed aggressively by people who would regularly insert it artificially into conversations. There was a little cabal of 2-3 people pushing it.

    Here are a couple examples, where one person would make a post somewhere and another person would chime in with a recommendation.

    Check out Fun_Belt_291’s comment here: www.reddit.com/r/nostr/…/nostr_vs_wiremin/

    FunBelt switches roles and makes a post complaining about Mastodon, and his buddy DealBig8988 plays a different role: www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/…/ixp0w5i/

    Nostr vs Wiremin?

    reddit