Depends on the context. But I doubt any of them can be objective about a war their own country is involved in.

Can you be objective as an English speaker which heavily implies former British colony or heavily influenced by English power?

I am not a native English speaker.

It’s that supposed to be more a of a reason to trust our distrust you based on things you cannot change.

Yeah, you’re gonna have to fix those typos, because I have no idea what you’re trying to say.

I’m not in the habit of catering to bad faith argument.

Oh id love to know what country that is so I can defeat that idea. You speak English for a reason and it isn’t because it’s fantastic and fun.

Weird, because bad faith arguments seem to be kind of your thing.

The reason I speak English is, as I already said, that it’s the most spoken language in the world. It’s not that hard to understand. Though if speaking English made me biased against Palestine, why isn’t it doing the same to you? Do you not speak English?

Not at all.

Yes because of English influence just like I said and you denied. I’m not the one making crazy statements about some dude from Palestine. Everyone has bias, why you would think without evidence that you cannot trust someone solely because they’re from Palestine is beyond me.

A lot of pretty simple things seem to be beyond you, so I’m not surprised.

And yet you refuse to explain your position in any logical fashion.

It’s quite simple, really: You seem to believe speaking English, like billions of other people on this planet, makes me biased. At the same time, an organization founded by someone from one of the countries involved in the conflict is apparently objective. That does not make sense in any way, shape or form. Is that clear enough to you?

It’s quite simple, really: you seem to believe being Palestinian, like millions of other people on this planet, makes them biased. At the same time, a comment made from one of the English speaking lemmings involved In commentary is appearantly objective. That did not make sense in any way, shape or form. Is that clear enough to you?

I’m bad with over-using commas but damn dude they don’t even make sense here most of the time.

So you think the two are equivalent? You really don’t see how someone could be biased on topics that concern their own country? Are you actually listening to yourself?

Most Palestinians probably speak English as well. According to your logic, that would make them biased against Palestine, then?

Btw you don’t need to further prove your ignorance of the English language, you’ve done enough of that that already.

I’ve not said nor implied that bud. I don’t see how anyone could not be biased towards English nations while speaking English. Are you actually listening to yourself?

Some certainly do yes, that would make them biased towards England… You know the country who occupied mandatory Palestine.

Yeah hemiparesis is a bitch to get used to, that said even though you doubt my grasp of the English language (though I’m an educated native speaker) doesn’t change the fact your argument is bigoted trash. Judge things in facts not perceptions.

Next time, maybe try coming up with some actual arguments rather than parroting other people’s, though. That might make you sound at least a bit less stupid.

Or at least try to think about what the sentences you’re copying even mean, because that’s exactly what they implied.

Oh the irony.

I don’t need to at this point, you’re not going to listen anyway so at this point fucking with you is entertaining.

You haven’t been right about anything yet, why start now huh?

Why would I listen to your arguments when they sound like something a preschooler would come up with? I am generally quite open-minded, it is not impossible to change my mind on a lot of things. It doesn’t really feel like you’re trying, though. You seem to have given up actually trying to make a point quite a while ago.

I can tell you something I know I am right about: nobody here is unbiased. Not you, not me, not the guy that posted this. It’s pretty much impossible to actually be objective in this conflict. However, it takes no more than a few minutes of looking at the website of this “news” organization (it really isn’t) to find out that most of their “news” articles on this conflict are unfounded accusations against Isreael with no source other than “someone told us”. You’d have to be insane to actually believe everything they say. There’s a reason no serious news outlet uses them as a source.

Ok. Let’s end this what exactly the frick is your issue with me.

State it directly and we’ll deal with it because I’m tired of your childish horseshit.

Say what you want or fuck off.

I believe your issue is that you’re taking this discussion personally. I really don’t care about you. You aren’t that important, sorry.

I’m taking it personally?

You’re entire argument is that we can’t trust a Palestinian on the ground in Palestine simply because they’re Palestinian, not because they’ve said anything false misleading or incorrect but simply because you feel like they could be biased. You don’t even see how fucking biased you are proving yourself to be by claiming they’re biased without a single shread of evidence.

Fuck off back to under your bridge bud.

You are taking it personally, as proven by your childish insults.

If you had taken some time to think about what I said instead of getting angry, you would have perhaps noticed that I never said that we couldn’t trust anyone from Palestine. Rather that this article cites no credible and verifiable sources and that their ties to Palestine are a possible explanation for why they might not be completely objective in their reporting.

Though I wonder, do you always believe wartime propaganda without any independent verification? Would, say, a Russian article about Ukrainian warcrimes be 100% believable to you? After all, just because they’re Russian, doesn’t mean anything they said is false, misleading or incorrect. You might just be biased against them.

Bro you’ve spent the last 5 comments calling me ignorant, it’s a bit late to play offended.

That’s quite literally what you said.

I specifically said take everything with a grain of salt but you can’t discount someone entirely because of their nationality as you’ve said before.

I’m not offended, I just find it funny that you’re insisting you aren’t getting angry while getting angry.

Anyways, there is a big difference between doubting someone can be completely objective and not believing a word they say. You don’t have to be objective to be correct. Though in this specific case, I see no reason to trust the author, since there are no credible sources.

I’m not angry, I’m annoyed because you’re trying to be annoying. No need to gaslight on top of that.

That’s not what you’ve said. I’ll add more quotes if you need that evidenced to you. Similarly, you mean the thing that I said directly before that comment? Noo… Pay attention, there’s a reason I redirected you multiple multiple times to read the comments in which you are responding.

Jesus Christ as I’ve says before if you would just read you wouldn’t be popping off on tangents that make no damn sense contextually.

Do I really need to repeat myself? What I said in the comment you referenced is completely correct. No, being biased does not necessarily mean you are wrong, as I also already explained. Though I don’t really know what you’re even trying to achieve here, since you are ignoring everything I say anyways.

I can imagine that someone disagreeing with one is annoying if one thinks their opinions are the objective truth. Unfortunately, that’s not how it works.

The top quote is not you as much as you’d like to take credit for it, the bottom however very much is you. Yes, I’m ignoring you… Hilarious.

No, I mean you specifically are annoying as fuck, you intend to be so don’t act surprised that the thing you’re doing is your working.

The top quote is horseshit, so I wouldn’t want to take credit for that anyways.

Ad hominem again… you realize that achieves nothing, right? You can try to insult me all you want, it just makes you look even more pathetic. Especially since you’re not even pretending to talk about the actual topic any more.

How so.

Again the lady doth protest too much, you can’t be upset for name calling when you started it dumb dumb.

I’m not talking about the conversation? I’m literally quoting the relevant comments back to you, get fucked troll.

Ps. You know upvotes are open on lemmy so upvoting your shitty comments isnt worth the effort bud.

I’m not upvoting my comments lmao, it does that automatically. I couldn’t care less about upvotes - unlike you, apparently.

Have you considered a career in politics? You seem to be pretty good at avoiding questions and derailing convetsations, which seems to be all the rage with politicians everywhere.

And with the childish insults again. You should really stop making a fool of yourself.

This username isn’t, no.

Have you? You’ve dodged this point so Manny times we might as well call you Santos.

Aww poor baby can dish it but can’t take it, why is that not surprising? You make fun of the fact I’m slowly going paralyzed but pointing out you’re about as annoying as an ingrown hair on my taint is totally worse. Boo hoo, fuck off bud.

I’m making fun of what now? I did not even know that. You are interpreting everything as a personal attack, that is the issue here.

You seem to think you are taking revenge of some kind by insulting me. Implying you think you are hurting my feelings or something. Sorry to have to tell you this, but it’ll take a bit more to do that than some rabdom stranger’s preschooler level insults.

Yeah sure. Then you’ve not been paying attention which is sorta my point. You don’t care about the argument your just trying to be annoying, you’ve quite literally admitted to it already. I’m interpreting everything as an insult? You’re the one fucking crying about it.

No, I’m fighting fire with fire, if you’re going to be an annoying asshole that doesn’t care about the argument, why exactly shouldn’t I throw the same back at you?

Aww poor baby got his fee fees hurt but can’t keep up, boo hoo. Fuck off crybaby, you’ve abandoned the argument entirely at this point and admitted you don’t even know what it is about.

If you were to look up “projection” in a dictionary, you’d have a pretty good chance of finding this comment.

Indeed it would but not for the reason you think.

You finna defend your shitty argument or just hurl insults while crying about hurled insults?

I have. Multiple times. But I guess you were too busy coming up with more kindergarten-level comebacks to actually come up with a response?

I’m really not sure why you’re even still replying to me. I mean, I think this conversation is hilarious, but you are clearly just getting upset about it, I don’t see what you’re achieving here.

You haven’t. Yes yes, boo hoo people that you’re insulting insult you back, go figure.

The same would apply to you dumb dumb, you don’t want me to reply then don’t fucking bother me with your bullshit ya idiot.

You aren’t even remotely making sense, do you realize that? It’s quite obvious how angry you are, denying it just makes you sound even more silly.

But, serious question: do you think that I feel insulted by some child online calling me an idiot? Do you think that that does anything at all other than making you sound stupid? It’s like you keep banging your head against a wall, expecting it to break any moment. I’m sorry, but it won’t. If you want to actually insult people (and you clearly do, you don’t even pretend to be here to discuss anything, you obviously just want to fight) you’ll have to do a lot better than that.

I’m not angry, some people just speak aggressively, stop minging.

You’re clearly insulted because you’ve bitched about it for like 10 fucking comments while you abandoned your argument.

Stop crying, make an argument or fuck off but specifically don’t play the crybaby game with me, you’ll not get sympathy for some shit you started.

Oh yeah, you just “speak aggressively”. Lol. Lmao, even.

Making an argument doesn’t really do much when speaking with you, since you’ll just ignore it and keep on crying about how everyone else is forcing you to be a dickhead.

Indeed I do bud.

There’s that projection again. You’ve said directly you don’t give a shit about the argument. You’re just being annoying, why lie. No one is forcing me to do anything, I respond in kind. The only one who’s cried about insults is you… The person who started hitting insults.

Or you could fuck off since you’re full of shit about wanting to get back to the argument anyway given that I’ve asked you to do just that mmmm 10-15 times at this point.

Stop crying, make an argument or fuck off.