ploum

Migrating from Whatsapp/Messenger to @signalapp is a good thing and I encourage everyone to do it.

But Signal being centralised (on purpose to avoid complexity), we knew it was a temporary solution. That it was not sustainable. Some day, It will either enshitify or crumble under its own weight.

Turns out that day is closer than we think:

https://signal.org/blog/signal-is-expensive/

Time to prepare the future. What should we do ?

XMPP
29.7%
Matrix
46.8%
Email! Delta chat FTW
17.1%
Back to Whatsapp. Everybody is using it anyway
6.3%
Poll ended at .
Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive

Signal is the world’s most widely used truly private messaging app, and our cryptographic technologies provide extra layers of privacy beyond the Signal app itself. Since launching in 2013, the Signal Protocol—our end-to-end encryption technology—has become the de facto standard for private commu...

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Show threadXtoFNov 16, 2023
@ploum @signalapp The infrastructure cost is only 14 million of the 50 million grand total , though. 6 million of which (the « Registration Fees ») may also be unavoidable with another architecture.
Show threadAnansi (spider)Nov 16, 2023
@ploum veilid?
https://veilid.com/
Veilid

Veilid is an open-source, distributed application framework.

Veilid
Show threadBins  Nov 16, 2023

@ploum @signalapp

J'ai voté pour matrix, mais avec la dernière cascade de la boîte derrière le client Élément... C'est plutôt un vote par défaut.

À quand une app (voire un écosystème) de tchat basée sur le protocole activity pub ?

Show threadNicalsNov 16, 2023

@ploum @signalapp

Can't imagine any alternative for now. I was able to convert non-tech friends to signal, it seems the best move would be to fund them.

Show threadFroisois DesboisNov 16, 2023
@ploum And what about RCS?
Show threadploumNov 16, 2023

@froisois : not encrypted and with no privacy at all.

EDIT: don’t take my word. I remember reading that RCS messages could be intercepted exactly like SMS with a police warrant. But I may be wrong on this as I see people mentioning the opposite.

Show threadPierre SchoepfNov 17, 2023
@ploum
What about Olvid ? (https://olvid.io/fr/)
Already using it with only a few friends.
Not the best UI, but solid.
Olvid - Accueil

Olvid - La messagerie privée pour tous.

Show threadJérémie Zimmermann🎶💗🧀🫖5946Nov 17, 2023

@ploum @signalapp

how about Simplex.chat?

it seems to tick all the boxes on privacy, by functioning without any sort of identity..

chatting without a strong selector (email address, phone number, etc.) may be considered freedom0 of communication protocols..?

#simplex #fuckoffsignal