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Randahl FinkWhen I grew up, bombing hospitals and killing children was wrong.
It did not matter whose hospital or children it was.
It was just wrong.
anubis2814@randahl You should hear about what we did in Vietnam
eestileib (she/hers)Plenty of people said that was wrong at the time too, including many veterans.
lolonurse@randahl
I'm thinking it's still supposed to be wrong... but that nobody's got the stones to band together to enforce international war crimes laws. So Putin is killing off Ukrainian people, now with impunity because we're bored of that (& nobody remembers the USSR), & this Hamas thing has better underground tunnels... kind of like what El Chapo built to bring crazy amounts of drugs from Mexico into SoCal, in the desert. We have no attention span or commitment.
I'm thinking it's still supposed to be wrong... but that nobody's got the stones to band together to enforce international war crimes laws. So Putin is killing off Ukrainian people, now with impunity because we're bored of that (& nobody remembers the USSR), & this Hamas thing has better underground tunnels... kind of like what El Chapo built to bring crazy amounts of drugs from Mexico into SoCal, in the desert. We have no attention span or commitment.
mike@randahl we’re all going to act shocked, just shocked that Israel could do such a thing AGAIN, then we’ll go through the whole charade again next time.
notwithstanding@randahl what a bad take man. Oversimplifying to the extreme.
liroso@randahl
Still is.
Still is.
zilla@randahl However paid trolls, hate mongers, racists and Biden will disagree with you.
Ideal CH@ZillaMon And Bernie Sanders too, it seems…
https://normanfinkelstein.substack.com/p/a-response-to-senator-bernie-sanders/
A Response to Bernie Sanders
After seeing Senator Sanders’ appearance on CNN from the morning of November 5, Norman Finkelstein decided it was necessary to publish an open video reply to the Senator. The clip in question is shown in the video, followed by Norman’s response, which was recorded last night, the evening of November 5 2023.
EyalLBecause when you were a child, hospitals weren't used as military headquarters
WhichOne'sPink 🇫🇮
jprestonian@randahl
Yes; of course.
Yes; of course.
Taya Nielsen@randahl Still is. Some jerks just don't care about anyone except themselves.
נחום Philoxenon וו.@randahl
When I grew up, the leaders of our enemies cared about their children and their own sick. They attacked us from army bases. They did not fire at us from the homes of their own babies, and from the hospitals of their own sick.
Nowadays, the have turned the homes of their babies and the hospitals of theior own sick into army bases. Israel attacks army bases, regardless of how they call them.
It's sad that this is the world we must live in. But we must fight those who shoot at us.
Mercurius Goldstein
Martin Kostera@Randahl Fink Many times hit hospital in Ashkelon and nobody in the world demonstrated. No, there is no military HQ in this hospital. Not like in Gaza.
By Gazans murdered children I will not post.
By Gazans murdered children I will not post.
@martin the answer is to kill every single member of Hamas. The answer is not to indiscriminately bomb an area with a population density of London thereby killing thousands of civilians.
@Randahl Fink
indiscriminately
What? JDAM and indiscriminately bombing? 🤦
Israel declared it will destroy all houses used by Hamas and do i t. Before attacks warn civilians, even wait for evacuation. Again - still waiting for your recipe how to destroy army in city without collateral damage. BTW, did you argue against allies when ISIS was liquidated in Mosul?
Which army(except Israeli) do that to avoid collateral dmg?
#^'I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours'
An extraordinary warning call to a Palestinian dentist starts the panicked evacuation of a Gazan neighbourhood.
indiscriminately
What? JDAM and indiscriminately bombing? 🤦
Israel declared it will destroy all houses used by Hamas and do i t. Before attacks warn civilians, even wait for evacuation. Again - still waiting for your recipe how to destroy army in city without collateral damage. BTW, did you argue against allies when ISIS was liquidated in Mosul?
Which army(except Israeli) do that to avoid collateral dmg?
#^'I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours'
An extraordinary warning call to a Palestinian dentist starts the panicked evacuation of a Gazan neighbourhood.
@Hovedorganet has moved
Rebolek@randahl when I grew up, terrorists had the dignity to not use civilians and hospitals as human shields. It was just wrong.
@rebolek that is not true. Airplane hijacking is just one example.
@randahl
Let's face it: sadly, *part of* the support for Ukraine came not from carefully reasoned idealist universalism, but from mechanical pro-western military enthusiasm.
Let's face it: sadly, *part of* the support for Ukraine came not from carefully reasoned idealist universalism, but from mechanical pro-western military enthusiasm.
Mirishuli@randahl was it also wrong to unleash tunnels underneath one and stockpile weapons and fuel and let terrorists live and work there? Wa s or wrong for terrorist to hold patients hostage at gunpoint, so that no one would try to root the terrorists out or the hospital and out of the tunnels? Or do you let terrorists live and work from your home, pretending you too are a civilian?
HeavenlyPossumYeah, those things were also wrong.
There’s this really simple saying that I can’t quite remember but I feel is relevant here. Something about two wrongs not making something. Can’t put my finger on it tho.
Stoneface Vimes
Lstn2urmama 🇨🇦@randahl ..so was insanity and seems morals as well have failed ...
Clinton Anderson SwordForHire@randahl Causes are ashes where children lie slain.
🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦How about landing paratroopers in foreign countries, kidnapping people from music festivals, taking people hostage, using your neighbors and families as human shields, and killing children in their commune beds?
Were those things also wrong when you were growing up?
@Methylcobalamin Hey Siri, what is whataboutism?
OtownKim@randahl Period!!
Isaac@randahl When I was a kid it was okay if they were Iraqi
ChookMother 🇦🇺🦘@randahl Yes. Rationalising it is just so offensive. I wish people could hear themselves. 😩