@philipncohen One point I'm surprised I never see articulated is that any purported "right to live in a Jewish majority state" is automatically inconsistent with the individual freedom of religion of every Israeli. If any Israeli has an unconditional right to convert to Zoroastrianism (for the sake of argument) regardless what anyone else wants, then all do and no-one can have any kind of bizarre right that a majority *of everyone else* must not do that. How can anyone have a right to stop others from changing their religion? And obviously any attempt to get away from this by trying to make it about some kind of innate identity that you are prevented from self-identifying out of will unavoidably have to establish some kind of “Rassengesetze" to figure out who's what independently of what they want to be.

@bifouba what this boils down to is that ethnic/religious definition of statehood are not truly compatible with democracy

@philipncohen Well yes, but my point is that this is trivially and irrefutable obvious by elementary logic, no deep philosophical debate required. So I just don't understand why so many people fail to put 1 and 1 together.