Eniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place)Subtoot: Hate to break it but proof of vaccination would not make return-to-office even remotely covid safe. Vaccines haven't been reliable for preventing covid infections for a very long time now and even when they do their efficacy plummets after a month or two. To make offices safe you would need both masking (N95 or better) and enough air filtration to get multiple air changes per hour. Those are the facts. That is what the science says
Like cmon the covid vaccines haven't worked properly for preventing infection since omicron. Arguably since delta. And the "updated shots" haven't helped since covid is mutating and spawning variants far too rapidly in the fuck around and find out era of the pandemic. That means vaccines haven't been useful for preventing infections for 2 years or more. How are people this outdated on their covid science?
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@eniko Are death cases still high because it's basically no longer exist where I live.
Tom Ritchford@anggiar @eniko Citation for your medical claims?
Where I live, there is almost no reliable information as the government stopped collecting it. The one thing we get is COVID in wastewater, and that's increased a great deal in the last few weeks: https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/rioolwater
@TomSwirly @eniko Hi Tom, I live in Jakarta, Indonesia. I think the government stopped recoding Covid data when the case reached below double digits since April:https://corona.jakarta.go.id/id/data-pemantauan
General observation in Hospital suggest that Covid cases are basically nonexistent. Currently there are no longer Mask mandate or Vaccination (Most of the population received their 3rd vaccine).
Jakarta! Saya mencintai Indonesia, dan saya bisa berbicara bahasa Indonesia, meskipun saya banyak lupa.
I hate to say it, but I'm very skeptical.
There is no good medical reason to stop recording COVID data. It's like not collecting data on a volcano because it isn't erupting right now.
Here in the Netherlands they stopped most recording, but you can see that COVID in the wastewater is increasing again.
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@anggiar @eniko We have allowed COVID to become a permanent part of our lives and we just don't talk about it anymore, but over 1000 people a day die from it still. Our governments decided to stop fighting it and stop talking about it for economic reasons, not for public health reasons.
Sorry for the grim message, selamat hari!
@TomSwirly @eniko I concur, in Jakarta it's most likely an attempt to stabilize the economy. Small-businesses are practically choked to death during covid but at the cost of shutting down Covid mitigation infrastructure.
I wish you good luck and health!