realitistaUS men are dying much earlier than women, as death 'gender gap' widens: Study
The Picard ManeuverThey talk about a few causes, but this is the gist of it for anyone who doesn’t want to click:
Researchers cited the pandemic as the biggest factor in the widening gender gap; it took a heavier toll on men. Unintentional injuries and poisonings (mostly drug overdoses), accidents and suicide were other contributors.
takedaThat’s because in addition to the disinformation, many men also have to do the macho thing: youtu.be/1chYhsp3NRw
Bill Burr on Quarantine, Destroys Joe Rogan's take on not wearing a mask.
mriormroI forgot that suicide was super macho.
NepentheI warned my ex when it was just beginning to be understood back in March 2020, and his exact response was, "It's not like I'm going to die." He says, occupying every high risk category except "immunocompromised."
So yeah, apparently.
Fat TonySo … did he make it?
I remember when I was growing up my parents were always saying “son you better kill yourself if you want to get married.” And on wrestling night, Randy Savage used to stand up on the turnbuckles and shout “AFTER THIS, MACHO MAN IS GONNA BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT.” He was a big role model for me.
“son you better kill yourself if you want to get married.”
I think I’m missing something, is this supposed to make sense? You can’t get married if you’re dead afaik
They're being facetious by imagining if intentional suicide was part of male culture in the same way excessive risk taking is.
Fuck Joe Rogan. At some level I want to say “if you are really going to take advice from Joe Rogan and other idiots online, Darwin will just be checking off posthumous boxes,” but I’ve seen too many family members be trapped and warped by social media into believing garbage that I realize it’s the fault of the system. People have always profited off of needless human death, it’s way worse though when it’s a podcaster spewing garbage.
Americans also just generally live shorter lives than people in other developed countries:
Still is, men are still dying more from Covid and in excess deaths from related conditions that are elevated like heart attacks and strokes.
ParsnipWitchThere are also studies that show men are less likely to got to a doctor or they go to late. In part that is because most male bodies tend to take longer before heavy symptoms are coming up but then they progress faster.
It has something to do with differences in immune system of men and women. When for example a man and a woman are infected with the same amount of viruses the women’s immune system will react faster so she gets symptoms earlier and goes to the doctor earlier as well. The man won’t have any symptoms but then the infection will suddenly progress fast when a critical amount of viruses is reached.
It’s of course more complex and there are tons of studies about it, but I think that’s something to keep in mind “in practice”.
This comes on top of the gender stereotypes which make some men shun the doctor.
Holy shit. That makes it even more problematic that many men tend to avoid going to the doctor. They essentially have less time once they do show symptoms. :(
You have any sources for that? Never heard of thos before; sounds interesting.
There are different studies depending on the pathogen or diesease. But this one describes some of the more general effects I mean:
Sex differences in immune responses
Paywalled, but it provides a good list of additional sources via it’s references and list of articles that cite it: The influence of sex and gender on the immune response
Sex differences in immune responses - Nature Reviews Immunology
In this Review the authors discuss some of the key differences that exist between male and female immune functions. They explain how these differences lead to sex biases in susceptibility to infections, inflammatory diseases and cancer. Moreover, they highlight the urgent need for immunologists to consider these sex differences when designing experiments.
Men trend more conservative than women overall (6 in 10 committed conservatives are men - pew) so more of them probably fell for the disinformation and denialism during the pandemic. Yes, we know that Republicans died more from COVID, to the tune of 15% more excess deaths.
4. Committed Conservatives
Though most voted for Donald Trump in 2020, they are less likely than some other conservative typology groups to back a run in 2024. Committed Conservatives hold pro business views traditionally associated with the Republican Party, have favorable attitudes about international trade and favor a limited role of government.