‘Pure greed:’ Etiquette expert explains why tipping has gotten out of control

https://lemmy.world/post/8151509

it’s not your waiter’s fault that they’re stuck in a scam on the scale of a whole culture
Is it mine?

It is of you decide they can starve over it.

When sustainable wage ain’t the minimum wage tipping ain’t a reward for good service, it’s the wage earner’s solidarity tax.

It is of you decide they can starve over it.

Wanting them to work somewhere with they are paid fairly does not equate to that you have no problem with them starving.

It does when you don’t tip them.
No, it doesn’t.

Deserve ain’t the metric when they’re being paid below a living wage.

You’re arguing they should provide five star service and suck your dick to “deserve” not needing to choose between heating and electricity that month.

Deserve ain’t the metric when they’re being paid below a living wage.

The two are not connected though either.

You’re arguing they should provide five star service and suck your dick to “deserve” not needing to choose between heating and electricity that month.

No, I’m not. Please don’t put words in my mouth, especially emotionally hyperbolic ones.

Nah, when you’re saying you don’t have to tip in these times that’s exactly what you’re saying fuckin’ moocher.

Nah, when you’re saying you don’t have to tip in these times

That’s not what I’m saying. Stop being hyperbolic and putting words in my mouth, its intellectually dishonest of you to do so, and loses any credibility for the point you are arguing for.

For the record, tip someone if they have earned it, or if you feel generous/sorry for them, but not because you are obligated to do so.

Cool cool cool - so we have the solution. After everyone who got bamboozled to work a job without compensation starved the tip crisis is over. Problem solved; just wait it out.
It’s not the fault of the employer who’s underpaying them?
It can be multiple people’s fault at once. You’re still the one stiffing them until the law makes their employers pay them fairly, don’t like it, don’t use the services.
Tipping is depending on the kindness to strangers. Don’t like it, don’t get a job that requires tips to survive.

If you don’t want to tip then don’t ask for the service of tipped workers and get pissy that they ask for a crumb of solidarity while the fight for a living wage remains ongoing.

Don’t like tipping, go grocery shopping for your food and cook for your own selfish ass self.

Goes both ways. Don’t like it if a person decides not to tip, which is well within their rights? Get a different job rather than continuing to support an industry that’s exploiting your labor even more than most do.

Nah, you’re the cheepo who doesn’t wanna pay the real price for the service they’re getting.

People like you are why “but it’ll raise prices!” is viewed as a main argument against living wages.

Fuckin’ cheapskate you are, when you catch something when the barista you short changed spits in your drink, remember how bravely and nobly you carried the cross of “fuck you gimme a free burger.”

If you were trying to convince me that tipping is trash culture for petty, entitled dipshits, you’ve succeeded
Nah, the employers are the cheapos who want the customers to pay their employees’ wages. If an employee is such a raging asshole that they’d spit in a customer’s drink, they most certainly don’t deserve any kind of tip.

A waiter isn’t going to starve because I didn’t tip them.

gtfo with that solidarity tax bullshit lol