MicroWave‘Pure greed:’ Etiquette expert explains why tipping has gotten out of control
nutsackit’s not your waiter’s fault that they’re stuck in a scam on the scale of a whole culture
Is it mine?
It is of you decide they can starve over it.
When sustainable wage ain’t the minimum wage tipping ain’t a reward for good service, it’s the wage earner’s solidarity tax.
Cosmic ClericIt is of you decide they can starve over it.
Wanting them to work somewhere with they are paid fairly does not equate to that you have no problem with them starving.
It does when you don’t tip them.
No, it doesn’t.
Deserve ain’t the metric when they’re being paid below a living wage.
You’re arguing they should provide five star service and suck your dick to “deserve” not needing to choose between heating and electricity that month.
Deserve ain’t the metric when they’re being paid below a living wage.
The two are not connected though either.
You’re arguing they should provide five star service and suck your dick to “deserve” not needing to choose between heating and electricity that month.
No, I’m not. Please don’t put words in my mouth, especially emotionally hyperbolic ones.
Nah, when you’re saying you don’t have to tip in these times that’s exactly what you’re saying fuckin’ moocher.
Nah, when you’re saying you don’t have to tip in these times
That’s not what I’m saying. Stop being hyperbolic and putting words in my mouth, its intellectually dishonest of you to do so, and loses any credibility for the point you are arguing for.
For the record, tip someone if they have earned it, or if you feel generous/sorry for them, but not because you are obligated to do so.
Cool cool cool - so we have the solution. After everyone who got bamboozled to work a job without compensation starved the tip crisis is over. Problem solved; just wait it out.
It’s not the fault of the employer who’s underpaying them?
It can be multiple people’s fault at once. You’re still the one stiffing them until the law makes their employers pay them fairly, don’t like it, don’t use the services.
samus12345Tipping is depending on the kindness to strangers. Don’t like it, don’t get a job that requires tips to survive.
If you don’t want to tip then don’t ask for the service of tipped workers and get pissy that they ask for a crumb of solidarity while the fight for a living wage remains ongoing.
Don’t like tipping, go grocery shopping for your food and cook for your own selfish ass self.
Goes both ways. Don’t like it if a person decides not to tip, which is well within their rights? Get a different job rather than continuing to support an industry that’s exploiting your labor even more than most do.
Nah, you’re the cheepo who doesn’t wanna pay the real price for the service they’re getting.
People like you are why “but it’ll raise prices!” is viewed as a main argument against living wages.
Fuckin’ cheapskate you are, when you catch something when the barista you short changed spits in your drink, remember how bravely and nobly you carried the cross of “fuck you gimme a free burger.”
Dude. Get help.
If you were trying to convince me that tipping is trash culture for petty, entitled dipshits, you’ve succeeded
Nah, the employers are the cheapos who want the customers to pay their employees’ wages. If an employee is such a raging asshole that they’d spit in a customer’s drink, they most certainly don’t deserve any kind of tip.
A waiter isn’t going to starve because I didn’t tip them.
gtfo with that solidarity tax bullshit lol
Ah… My bad :(
And whose fault is it at the Self-Checkout?
And the cashier at 7/11?
In some states, like mine, someone working for tips is not getting paid minimum wage. So if you don’t tip the waiter, then they could be worse off than a cashier at 7-11 who makes minimum wage.
There is no state in the union where a tipped employee can make less than minimum wage
Correct because the minimum wage for tipped jobs is less than ones who are not tipped. Circa $2.13/hr or some bullshit number.
Employers must make up the difference if the employee makes less than the federal minimum wage if they don't make it with tips included is what they're saying.
Have you ever worked in a restaurant? Have you ever actually seen anyone try that?
Ideally yes. There are laws, sure. However, in the real world, it doesn’t work that way. In my state, there is a different minimum wage for tipped workers. Back when it affected me personally, it was $2.85 when the minimum wage was $7.25. Now it’s like $10 and $14.
And yes, if the tipped employee doesn’t meet a minimum wage then the employer is supposed to make that up. How often that happens though, I’ve never seen it. And what is an underpaid employee supposed to do? Sue a chain restaurant with all the money they don’t have? Get a pro bono lawyer willing to waste months of their time to help recover the difference of like $300?
I get the altruism, and the simple satisfaction from pointing to laws to try to disprove a person who experienced things in real life. But at some point in your life, you should learn that the real world doesn’t work by pointing to a rule book and crying foul when someone breaks the rules.
I’ve never been asked for a tip on the PayPad at a 7/11
My waiter probably prefers tipping culture because they make a hell of a lot more than they would otherwise. If not, it’s their fault they chose their job.
they absolutely do but not every waiter gets rewarded with a “good shift”
But not every shift is a bad shift. That’s why tipped staff wants to stay tipped staff.
If every shift is a bad shift, they should reconsider their job