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It’s Official: With “Vermin,” Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk

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It’s Official: With “Vermin,” Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk He’s telling us what he will do to his political enemies if he’s president again. Is anyone listening? ---- I feel pretty safe in saying that we can now stop giving him the benefit of that particular doubt. His use—twice; once on social media, and then repeated in a speech—of the word “vermin” to describe his political enemies cannot be an accident. That’s an unusual word choice. It’s not a smear that one just grabs out of the air. And it appears in history chiefly in one context, and one context only.

Nov 13, 2023 at 3:06amWeb
Show threadMr FishNov 13, 2023

Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk

So, the situation remains unchanged.

Show threadFuglyDuckNov 13, 2023

I remember pointing out that trump was using Nazi rhetoric during his ‘16 campaign.

The number of people that argued with me about how it was an exaggeration. Makes me want to scream.

Show threadRakonatNov 13, 2023
Anyone who says he wasn’t is willfully ignorant so they don’t have to admit they support facism, or unironically ignorant and falling victim to what facism does best: take advantage of the uneducated
Show threadFuglyDuckNov 13, 2023
They weren’t the sorts of people to listen to his rallies, etc. Mostly just caught the highlights and sound bites. So when rhetoric started they were mostly… unwilling to accept that. it was just… inconceivable.
Show threadChuymattNov 13, 2023
I feel we are experiencing Cassandra Syndrome.
Show threadrustyriffsNov 13, 2023
wikipedia link
Wikiwand - Cassandra (metaphor)

The Cassandra metaphor relates to a person whose valid warnings or concerns are disbelieved by others.

Wikiwand
Show threadIgloojoeNov 13, 2023

The dude bragged about how he had mein keimf on his bedstand.

Him and Desantis both studied hitler and wannabe him.

Show threadImmersive_MatthewNov 13, 2023
I am not fan of Desantis but never heard he said he was into “Mein Kampf”. Where did you learn if this?
Show threadIgloojoeNov 13, 2023
Not of the book. But I heard he studied history in college, and basically he is basically using the same playbook pre-WW2 nazi germany was doing.
Show threadFuglyDuckNov 13, 2023

yeah.

though it was probably the picture version for the hitler youth kids.

Show threadTechyDadNov 13, 2023

Slightly. Trump seems to be ramping up the rhetoric. He’s getting more and more comfortable emulating Nazi speech. And each step along the way, the media normalizes it by reporting “oh, that wacky Trump said something crazy again!”

At this rate, he’ll be posting in September 2024 about a final solution to rid this country of his political enemies and all Jews and the NYT will report “Trump Puts Forward Plan To Unite Washington.”

Show threadPrataiNov 13, 2023
His entire existence is a Nazi dog whistle.
Show threadkrashmoNov 13, 2023
Sure, but it’s worth noting that it’s now just a regular whistle.
Show threadLemmysMumNov 14, 2023
At this point it’s a fucking vuvuzela.
Show threadfosforusNov 13, 2023

Almost kinda worse.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Political_positions_of_Donald_…

The man is completely empty of any significant value systems. He just does what works for him.

Political positions of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

Show threadivanafterallNov 13, 2023
Since we all seem to know where this is headed, could we all chip in on a Kickstarter to get Trump a bunker, just to be sure that ball's rolling?
Show threadPugJesusNov 13, 2023
I'd prefer the Boulangist ending tbqh.
Show threadChrisLichtNov 13, 2023
From chess?
Show threadPugJesusNov 13, 2023
Yes, the controversial ending move where your king flees off the board when the pawns turn against him, and shoots himself.
Show threadperviouslyinerNov 13, 2023
He was already hiding in the white house bunker when there was a crowd outside.
Show threadArugulaZNov 13, 2023
Sure, and the kill-billies who support you when they're not shooting up black churches and Wal-Marts are upstanding American citizens.
Show threadDrusasNov 13, 2023

Also reminiscent of the Rwandan genocide, when the slaughtered Hutu were called cockroaches.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/15/rwandan-who-called-tutsis-cockroaches-in-1992-gets-life-sentence/

Rwandan Who Called Tutsis ‘Cockroaches’ in 1992 Gets Life Sentence

A man accused of encouraging the genocide in Rwanda has been sentenced to life in prison.

Foreign Policy
Show threadlemmusNov 13, 2023
He’ll be borrowing “human animals” from the Israeli government soon.
Show threadprototypez9erNov 13, 2023
He already had.
Show threadTb0n3Nov 13, 2023
Kinda like calling your opponents deplorable? Isn’t this just modern shit politics?
Show threadNewDarkNov 13, 2023
Deplorable isn’t literally de-humanizing.
Show threadMooseBoysNov 13, 2023

Deplorable (adjective): Dishonorable or deserving of strong condemnation.

Vermin (noun): Noxious or disgusting wild animals that are difficult to control.

Show threaddonutsNov 13, 2023

Say what you will but she was right.

It was proven during Charlottesville, again during January 6th, and many more times between and since.

Anyone who still supports Trump, considering everything he's said and done, is deplorable.

Show threadcabron_offsetsNov 13, 2023
She was wrong. It’s way more than half of them.
Show threadFlying SquidNov 13, 2023
I don’t remember reading about Hitler calling people deplorable. He did call them vermin though.
Show threadTheJimsNov 13, 2023
Calling them deplorable at this point is just being way too kind.
Show threadsndmnNov 13, 2023
I bet you get called lots of things…
Show threadbeebarfbadgerNov 14, 2023
One is saying that somebody is to be deplored and the other is saying that somebody belongs to a category of animals that are usually to be exterminated where found. Can you see the difference?
Show threadTb0n3Nov 14, 2023
They’re both off hand insults about their opponents’ supporters. I think you’d agree with me when I say NOTHING Trump has ever said has any deeper meaning. He’s an idiot just saying what pops into his head.
Show threadtheneverfoxNov 14, 2023

No, Trump says whatever pops into his head to get cheers.

It has no meaning to him, but it has meaning

Show threadbeebarfbadgerNov 14, 2023
It’s also very telling where his mind goes to pillage ideas. You never hear him spontaneously spurt out “thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself” and go on a wild tangent from there. There may be no direction to his streams of consciousness, but the pond he’s ambling around in says a lot about him.
Show threadSterile_TechniqueNov 13, 2023
He’s been using Nazi talk since day one. “Fake news” is the most glaring example, which is just the most recent take on Lügenpresse.
Lying press - Wikipedia

Show threadTechyDadNov 13, 2023

And that was an actual term before he co-opted it. It would refer to the random blogs that claimed to be news sites that would post laughably false articles with doctored photos and completely made up quotes.

There was stuff with Hillary saying things that she literally never said, but it was “reporting” that she said it. The minor right wing sites would then cite these articles and the major right wing organizations would quote them. It would be proven false (easily) but by then they had moved onto the latest thing Hillary “did” (according to these sites).

Trump took this very useful term and twisted it into “anything I don’t like is fake.”

Show threadDoc Avid MorningtonNov 14, 2023

Thank you, it drives me batty that it’s become so hard to discuss the problems of actual fake news, much of which benefits Trump and needs to be called out, without people thinking we’re MAGA conspiracy loons.

But also, I kind of chuckled, because your use of past tense made it sound like those things don’t happen anymore, rather than being the cornerstone of right wing media today.

Show threadDoc Avid MorningtonNov 14, 2023

Thank you, it drives me batty that it’s become so hard to discuss the problems of actual fake news, much of which benefits Trump and needs to be called out, without people thinking we’re MAGA conspiracy loons.

But also, I kind of chuckled, because your use of past tense made it sound like those things don’t happen anymore, rather than being the cornerstone of right wing media today.

Show threadDoc Avid MorningtonNov 14, 2023

Thank you, it drives me batty that it’s become so hard to discuss the problems of actual fake news, much of which benefits Trump and needs to be called out, without people thinking we’re MAGA conspiracy loons.

But also, I kind of chuckled, because your use of past tense made it sound like those things don’t happen anymore, rather than being the cornerstone of right wing media today.

Show threadxerazalNov 13, 2023
Big red flag
Show threadjorgeNov 13, 2023
with a white circle and a black cross
Show threadalternative_factorNov 13, 2023
I'm sure Trump has some kind of solution to this "vermin problem"! /s
Show threadD_CNov 13, 2023
A concluding solution? Some kind of ultimate solution?
Crikey, surely there must be a ‘final’ way to say this…
Show threadtegs_terryNov 14, 2023
You aren’t even being sarcastic, and you’re using that stupid shit at the end of your comment? God I hate it. If there’s anything I would like eliminated from the face of the earth, it’s ‘/s’.
Show threadalternative_factorNov 14, 2023
Clam down dude, some people just can't get that you are making a joke so you gotta use the /s.
Show threadtegs_terryNov 15, 2023
Why you gotta? It ruins it.
Show threadalternative_factorNov 15, 2023
Like I said some people just can't perceive irony, especially online. My comment would probably be sitting at -28 instead of +28 if I didn't.
Show threadtegs_terryNov 15, 2023

Horseshit it’s very clearly a joke, and even if it was at -28, why give a shit? And you weren’t even being sarcastic.

You ruined your joke.

Show threadfosforusNov 13, 2023
That’s an interesting use of the word “now”.
Show threadCileTheSaneNov 13, 2023
Used to, still does too.
Show threadvorticNov 13, 2023
Not to defend him, but this sounds much too coherent for it to be something he wrote himself. That doesn’t make it better. It probably makes it worse. He’s still spouting Nazi slurs and may not even be aware of it because he has no awareness of history.
Show threadspaceghotiNov 13, 2023
There’s no way he’s not aware of the precedent he’s following. He doesn’t care as long as it gets him back into power.
Show threadGreenMNov 13, 2023
The guy is facing like dozens of criminal charges. How can someone like that run for presidency in the first place?
Show threadRGB3x3Nov 13, 2023

Innocent until proven guilty. It’s important to remember that.

However, I’d argue the President of the United States should be held to a higher standard than merely “not convicted.”

Show threadCheeseNoodleNov 13, 2023
Hasn’t he now said things in open court multiple times that would be taken as direct admissions coming from anyone else?
Show threadA Phlaming PhoenixNov 13, 2023
I’m civil court. I don’t think he’s testified in any criminal cases yet. Maybe I’m wrong.
Show threadThis is fine🔥🐶☕🔥Nov 13, 2023

I’m civil court

Nice to meet you

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Guys, what else do you say to anthropomorphic personifications?

Show threadWhiskyTangoFoxtrotNov 13, 2023
Not today.