MicroWaveNov 6, 2023

Sanders says he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible ‘with an organization like Hamas’

https://lemmy.world/post/7852566

Sanders says he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible ‘with an organization like Hamas’ - Lemmy.World

Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved. “I don’t know how you can have a ceasefire, (a) permanent ceasefire, with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel,” Sanders told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” Sunday.

Show threadkittenzrulz123Nov 6, 2023
I don’t think peace is possible when one side is holding the other in an open air prison and giving them only the amount of calories needed to not die (after the war started even that was suspended)
Show threadCommanderM2192Nov 6, 2023
Yeah, that’d be crazy if it was happening.
Show threadNoneOfUrBusinessNov 6, 2023
Surprise: It's not. They're giving them less than the amount they need not to starve.
Show threadCommanderM2192Nov 6, 2023

So, who’s responsibility is it to feed them?

Is it Egypt’s since they were the previous owners of the land before Israel took it in a war started by Egypt? How about the UN? It’s not like they literally have an entire organization whose sole purpose is to provide aid to the Palestinians.

Oh? It’s solely Israel? Israel is solely responsible for the welfare of a people where the majority want to genocide them? Not Egypt or the UN? Not Hamas? Not the PLO? Only Israel?

Either put some fucking pressure on your own country and the UN to step the fuck up and provide real aid, or fuck off.

History of Gaza - Wikipedia

Show threadNoneOfUrBusinessNov 6, 2023

So, who’s responsibility is it to feed them?

Their military occupiers, Israel. Or maybe the people blockading them and actually controlling how much aid goes in and how much they can import (with their meagre economy since they're not allowed to export their goods), which is also Israel.

Show threadmwguyNov 6, 2023

Their military occupiers, Israel.

Aside for some areas in North Gaza, Israel doesn’t occupy the Gaza Strip, and hasn’t for decades.

Show threadNoneOfUrBusinessNov 7, 2023
Then why is the Gaza strip considered to be occupied by the UN?
Show threadmwguyNov 7, 2023
1 nation one vote combine with a European history of hating Jews and Gypsies.
Show threadNoneOfUrBusinessNov 7, 2023
That's... well... an original opinion, at least.
Show threadmwguyNov 7, 2023
Is it? Have you ever asked a European about their opinions on Jews and Gypsies? I’d make a KKK member blush.
Show threadNoneOfUrBusinessNov 7, 2023

I know that, but assuming that influence somehow makes it all the way to the UN is tenuous at best. You're gonna need proof for that. Also, European countries are 44 out of a total of 193, so even if somehow they were all ruled by antisemites, that's not nearly enough to make the whole UN antisemitic.

The UN is one of the least biased entities in the world, so if you think they're biased, there's a good chance you're the one being biased.

Show threadmwguy

44 European nations plus 56 Islamic nations is essentially a majority.

The UN is one of the least biased entities in the world, so if you think they’re biased, there’s a good chance you’re the one being biased.

I’m what way? The UN has confirmed Israel more than every other thing that has happened on the planet combine. How is that not bias?

Nov 7, 2023 at 8:55pmWeb