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He thought the light stayed on? They’re led anyway so no heat. Double the regards.
Even with an old school filament light bulb, this probably wouldn’t have been enough to “warm” anything inside the refrigerator even if the light didn’t turn off.

Even with an old school filament light bulb

The heat from those bulbs was used to keep the content over 0 degrees Celsius when the fridge got colder than the set temperature (e.g. very cold room in winter) to prevent the goods in the fridge from freezing.

That’s what I know about this topic. Valid for Germany, don’t know how this is handled in other parts of the world.

No. There is a thermostat for this purpose. You xan open a fridge 0 or 50 times per day and it will keep the set temperature. And the evaporator (cooling) tubes are in the back, which is where water condenses and does get cold enough to freeze sometimes. Anyway, the droplets fall into a drain and a narrow tube carries them out, usually onto a little tray on top of the compressor, whose heat helps the water evaporate. Replacing the bulb with an LED has no effect besides decreasing energy usage.

Wait what’s this about a free selection? Why would you have to be quick and sneaky if it’s free?

Sort of sounds like… shoplifting with extra steps

With the way bulbs are designed, all the heat is in the filament, and a bit gets transferred to the glass. The filament cools very quickly, hence it goes dark, and the glass is so thin that there isn’t a meaningful change in temperature of the surrounding air once it’s shut off.

Add that into the massive heat sink that is the contents of your fridge, not to mention the sheer volume of air that tiny amount of heat has to warm up… Anyone legitimately concerned about it heating the inside of the fridge needs some refresher courses in science.

The smaller the fridge, the more it’ll affect the inside, but it’s still negligible.

I have no data beyond anecdotal experience, so if someone wants to set up a scientific study, I’ll happily skim the abstract and make sweeping judgements about the content!

In a large fridge a small incandescent lightbulb won’t make much difference since it turns off when the door closes and would have a relatively small thermal mass, which I think is what you’re saying. That said I don’t think it’s accurate to say that “all of the heat is in the filament.” Heat spreads, and it will leave the light bulb. If you have ever touched an incandescent light bulb that is on you would have no doubts about this! Easy bake ovens used to use incandescent light bulbs to cook things, people leave their oven lights on to keep their oven warmer to let bread rise. Larger incandescent light bulbs can absolutely warm up a full sized room, 60W or 100W is a fair amount of heat. There are stories about extremely temperature controlled rooms where they would turn on a 100W bulb when a person leaves it because a person produces about 100W of heat.

Yeah, sure. The heat spread.

But when the filament is only heated for THE SECONDS THE FRIDGE IS OPEN, no, it doesn’t really have time to heat much.

Everyone keeps bringing up lights that are supposed to be on for hours, or literally never turn off.

We are discussing the few seconds a bulb is on in a fridge.

Old incandescent bulbs actually used to melt snow for streetlight and this had to be addressed when switching to LEDs.
LED traffic lights trouble in winter because they don't melt snow | CBC News

New LED bulbs don't generate the same amount of heat the old incandescent bulbs did, so they don't melt the snow that builds up on traffic lights.

CBC

Lamps that are on constantly, all day every day?

Yes, the heat they put out is plenty.

A fridge lamp that’s in for a few seconds? No.

Streetlights are not on all day.

They are on at night.

What was the solution to this in the long term? The article doesn’t say.

I have an older minifridge with an incandescent bulb.

If the door gets left slightly open (shitty fridge door) it has literally dehydrated food in 8 hours in the past 3 months that was close to the light.

A pack of meat was jerky hard.

A tortilla became completely cracker-hard

A pack of cheese slices literally melted together on the side.

It absolutely can warm food inside of the fridge.

In other news I am buying an LED bulb for it today…

For real, how long did he leave the refrigerator open for the bulb to noticably warm up? Dude’s habits are wasting more energy than all the lightbulbs in his house.

They’re led anyway so no heat.

Think you might want to do a bit more research on LED bulbs.

“ackhschually they do heat up when they’re huge so saying ‘no heat’ is inkchorrect”
40w is a lot of energy going into such a small space though! Granted, its off most of the time anyways but that’s still a lot of energy (and therefore heat)
No heat? Most led break because they can't displace the heat
Thank you for the over pedantry. We’re well aware that heat is generated, but we’re talking an order of magnitude in difference, nearly.
Yeah, I can’t touch a 100w incadescent bulb that’s been on for an hour, but an equivalent LED bulb could be on for days and I still can touch it without issues.

To anyone who doesn’t know, a 100w “equivalent” is not the same thing as a 100w diode.

I think the led equivalent on the last 100w replacement I bought was 3w?

I have a 10w led that I rigged up to light my entire back yard at night.

I thought we all discovered the little switch under the door when we were like 3. What was this guy doing?
I guess our refrigerator is old but it’s the old style bulb
I feel sorry for OP, he’s probably not going far either

Go to hardware store

Buy LED replacement bulb

You can get one in “cool white”

Checkmate retards.

If it isn’t an led already he should get a new refrigerator if he really wants to save money

/> Have father

/> He’s too dumb to understand thermodynamics