Tamimi: 'We will drink your blood; what Hitler did to you was a joke'

https://lemmy.world/post/7864581

Tamimi: 'We will drink your blood; what Hitler did to you was a joke' - Lemmy.World

Her Instagram post, translated in the link: > “Come on settlers, we will slaughter you. We are waiting for you in all the cities of the West Bank. What Hitler did to you was a picnic. We will drink your blood and eat your skulls” She has since been arrested: * Jerusalem Post [https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-771867] * WSJ [https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-gaza-strip-2023-11-06/card/israel-arrests-palestinian-activist-ahed-tamimi-for-inciting-terrorism--l0PxIlkpeRmrODTVUoLw]

Individuals such as this should never be given any sort of publicity.

Unfortunately we are in the age of sensationalism, and lunatics like this one are widely reported because it drives more page views and more clicks.

And she’s 21. Like, I feel, as a society, we can comfortably take any brilliance from a 21 year old as someone who has a special insight worthy of sharing, but we can also disregard any of the more outlandish shit that comes out of 21 year olds mouths. A lot of 21 year olds are brash and full of bluster. All that can be written off as immature horseshit.

Again, some are wise beyond their years, or have a decent head on their shoulders and spend their fresh adulthood wisely, doing good. They can have bright, new ideas that should be listened to…but this is not a new idea, nor is it worth reporting. Except as propaganda. Which is exactly what this article is, let’s not kid ourselves.

“Outspoken 21 year old says something horrible and outlandish!” Implied: [see what we’re up against? This particular group of HORRIBLE PEOPLE needs to be “relocated.”] Yes, what this person said was horrible. Yes, there are stupid people who are angry and using that anger inappropriately. But this does not change the current situation. An occupying force is wiping out a long-suffering people with the imperial might of the most war-hungry nations and capitalist enterprises in its ear and at its back. This is not a noble endeavor because some 21 year old said something wrong, the 21 year old is wrong for saying what they said. But…so is what the state of Israel is doing to the Palestinian people. The children dying have nothing to do with this idiot. She is nothing more than convenient war machine propaganda.

This isn’t an isolated incident. It’s one of many posts by influencers like the Hadid sisters, Mia Khalifa, and more. She’s an idiot, but she’s representative example of Palestinian sentiment at the moment.

The children dying right now are the result of an unrelenting campaign of violent hate speech and teaching hatred in schools.

You can’t blame the children dieing on anyone but the people responsible for actually dropping the bombs and shooting the bullets.

Violence is almost never the answer, and indiscriminate violence actually never ever is.

No one but the children are without fault in this conflict, but still far too many (more than 0) children pay the ultimate price. You can wage war without killing children, it just costs more. But if you can’t pay that price then the war can’t ever be considered just.

A 16 year old is a child, right? Let’s look at some semi-hypotheticals and you tell me who you think is to blame:

  • A 16 year old with a butcher knife who has already stabbed two people
  • A 16 year old being told to stand next to a jeep in the middle of a firefight
  • A 16 year old shooting a rifle
  • A 4 year old boy who is forced to be next to a senior commander 24/7 who holds the boy in front of him when the shooting starts

War is hell, and it is complicated. Child soldiers will die, and there will be civilians caught in the crossfire. The is no track for this trolley that has 0 children. Any military has to balance the number of civilians killed vs the risk to its own soldiers vs the likelihood of killing their intended targets. If you expect them to sacrifice hundreds or thousands of soldiers just to avoid a few civilians, you grossly misunderstand how the world works. Most military forces will certainly be unwilling to sacrifice a single soldier for a single civilian, even on their own side.

Legally and morally yes in amongst every country. Including Israel.

Well, I can see you’re not from Iran

I can only find this reference for the Talmud, which is pretty clear that it’s only a recommendation to marry at 18 instead of 13

Age of majority - Wikipedia

We’re not talking about Iran.

The law in Israel civilly is 18, the rest is fairly basic and obvious.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dina_d'malkhuta_dina#:~:t….

Dina d'malkhuta dina - Wikipedia

Legally and morally yes in amongst every country. Including Israel.

Did you perhaps mean “almost”? I thought you were taking the absolutist stance that the age of majority is always 18.

Ed: I should say according to the talmud no one is adult until 18.

How does a citation from Shulchan Arukh suddenly become “according to the Talmud”? It’s literally not part of it.

Yes almost.

Talmidic interpretation matters especially those that are accepted by the majority of that group and that’s ignoring the fact that religious law is second to civil law in Israel so the talmudic interpretation is supporting but not definitive, civil law is.