Dear Lemmings, how can we funnel reddit users to lemmy?

https://lemmy.world/post/7156362

Dear Lemmings, how can we funnel reddit users to lemmy? - Lemmy.World

Please, help us to better understand how we can effectively funnel reddit users into Lemmy across all demographics, leveraging the average Lemmings advantages like expertise in automation, ai and bots? What tactics/strategies do you propose? Can we automate the process? Can we somehow add ai to make it more fashionable?

Create content and participate to make Lemmy more attractive.
Best I can do is talk about Linux.
Which distro?
The archetypical answer should be obvious
Installing tumbleweed rn
Great distro by the way.

I wish 😭

It refuses to install… I got a dell vostro 3468 running on legacy BIOS. I’m coming from windows and there’s an NTFS partition full of data I’m trying to preserve…

The guided partitioning errors out(usually runs out of space, and no packages can continue installing so they throw errors), and using the expert partitioning throws a couple of grub errors at the end when it’s installing grub

You can start out with something light, and then install packages as you go.

I generally do a barebones install and then install individual packages. By default a lot of packages are installed - most of them you don’t need.

And also checkout . It is a lighter version of Opensuse and has the calmares installer. (Tumbleweed is the Gecko rolling version)

The MBR layout was the issue

When I wiped the drive, everything fixed itself!

Loving tumbleweed so far

All my homies use Hannah Montana Linux
Real OGs peer beyond the *nix veil and graduate to TempleOS
Baby's first OS. The actual OGs graduate back to SLS.
Slackware, forever Slackware.
Then do that. There are many Linux communities on Lemmy, participate in them and try to make them a better place by contributing useful comments and posts.
He’s making a joke, because if you look at /all communities it can be like half posts from various Linux communities at times
In German.
So more OpenSuSE, gotcha.
Je peux peut-être aider en suggérant une deuxième choix ?
That’s that Windows program the nerds use, yeah? Do you like it?
What’s a program? Is that a kind of app?
I never have anything interesting to say
I think you just disproved your own point my friend, that was fascinating.

you think what these idiots are saying is interesting?

just yap its more enjoyable that way

In my case I found that creating a community that was missing here, then regularly populating it with content, has worked wonders. That it was not just a good way to get myself engaged here, as well as to grow the Fediverse, but to attract users from Reddit and other places given a bit of cross-posting.

Seriously, I’m not sure how many people understand that right now, given that new content is generated relatively slowly across the FV, that any new community putting quality stuff out there is going to get a *hugely* larger proportion of eyes on it. That’s compared to similar communities on Reddit, FB, etc, in which smaller / newer communities tend to get completely drowned out in the ALL streams.

My own niche community (Euro graphic novels) already has 350+ subscribers in less than 90 days. Even for Reddit that’s a nice jump-start and growth. Which is why I urge people to jump on this opportunity now, because eventually it’s probably going to erode.

Indeed, maybe it would be good to get this message out to people on Reddit, FB, etc who always wanted to start a sub/community, but the opportunities were ā€˜all filled up’ already.

Cross post from Lemmy to Reddit. But we must raise the question if we really want that. Reddit became toxic over the past few years, and I think people on Lemmy right night are in general different. Do we want to turn Lemmy into Reddit?

Instead of crossposting everything, maybe just do it for specific topics.

Large subreddits are (and have often been) toxic. Niche interest ones are mostly fine

I don’t think we do no. Reddit (users) has long been known for its ā€œknow-it-allā€ elitist attitude. I dunno if that is a natural consequence of the voting system but we shouldn’t try to replicate it.

Dear Lemmings, how can we funnel reddit users to lemmy? Please, help us to better understand how we can effectively funnel reddit users into Lemmy across all demographics, leveraging the average Lemmings advantages like expertise in automation, ai and bots?

This almost reads like an AI generated prompt from a company. Personally I don’t think it makes sense to coordinate something artificial because people will see right through that.

Lemmy and the Fediverse at large IS better than the other platforms. With time it will grow for that reason alone.

What tactics/strategies do you propose?

Post content about things you know about and follow. It could be stuff you see on other social media, local news, anything really.

If you want to get more involved, pick a specific community or subreddit type and see what it needs. How can Lemmy serve that topic as well or better than Reddit could. If it makes sense, see if you can work with the moderators for the subreddit to get an official parallel community going (link to eachother, update rules, add the subreddit mods as mods here).

Can we automate the process?

Only in some cases where it makes sense. Lemmit exists for those that want a feed from a subreddit. Otherwise Time sensitive content, such as deals/sales?

Can we somehow add ai to make it more fashionable?

I think the opposite is needed, don’t do any of the random ā€œfashionableā€ things companies are doing, which actually end up making the experience worse. Areas where it might be nice to have AI might be:

  • improving the summarizer bot (it’s broken sometimes, not sure why)
  • local translations when content is in another language
  • can’t think of anything else?

I feel the very specific community topic split is already affecting Lemmy negatively. So I think having larger, broader community topics (e.g. ā€˜commuting’ instead of a community for every single option to commute by itself), with more diverse content, interaction and of course more visible activity, would also attract new users.

Right now some communities are so specific, that by its creation, it’s a filter bubble by design. And then of course you don’t get a lot of content or interaction, as only yea-sayer get accepted.

Interaction requires different approaches, opinions, options and of course people who upvote them even when disagreeing. The reply box is the correct option when disagreeing, not the downvote. That’s how Lemmy will sprout.

tl;dr Broader community topics for larger, more diverse and more active communities

We could improve Lemmy’s features because this is an important factor in the next of content creation. For example: better sync, account migration, more intuitive UX, etc.

If you remember a ton of people left because for these reasons: Confusing sign-up (having to choose an instance), worse UX, having to use third-party sites to explore communities which aren’t local, suffering from defederation (my main gripe with Lemmy)

I agree wholeheartedly with what you (and others) have said. I wish there was a way to have one account but be able to use it on all instances. It would also be great that even though instances are decentralized, the content still was consolidated. So basically people from various instances visiting sort of fused/amalgamated communities.
@BigBlackCockroach we can already sort of do that? You're from lemmy.world, you're talking to @PrivateNoob from sopuli.xyz, and I'm reading both of you from kbin.social which also lets me follow people on mastodons.

You can use an account on all instances but I think the lack of consolidation is the single biggest problem with Lemmy/KBin tbh (the lack of ActivityPub in some of the other Reddit alternatives also doesn't help).

Obviously there's a smaller userbase here, which is fine and expected but can make some communities feel a little empty. Having basically the same community in multiple places across multiple Lemmy and KBin instances makes that issue a lot worse though - ideally communities covering the exact same topic should be automatically consolidated in the way you describe. And ideally on an opt-out basis for the user - so you see the amalgamated page by default and can see the individual ones if wanted.

Don’t want to. This is good as it is. There’s already a fair crack of wowsers here, and that’s already too many. The discussion here was pretty amazing a while back, but it’s already dumbing down as this place grows.
Interesting argument, so you are saying now we are at the sweet spot?
We’ve passed it. However, I concede the focused communities are appearing now, which is nice.
Lemmy was great as they were coding it. Been down hill ever since.

There’s already a fair crack of wowsers here

Could you translate that?

I see marketing via AI tools and bots unethical. Many things can be done via conventional marketing.

  • Contact content creators (especially oriented towards Linux and Free software, like TheLinuxExperiment or DistroTube, or some gaming channels, as well) to create communities of their channels on Lemmy.
  • Somehow reduce content about world news and politics. Many people go to the Internet to step aside from the real world events.
  • Also, majority of Reddit users are teenagers. The older generation of Reddit has fled away. We must think twice what target audience we want to bring in. I don’t want Lemmy to become a place where alt-wing anti-establishment political leaders bait naĆÆve teenagers and take them into the rabbit hole (aka scenario described in The Social Dilemma).

    Maybe we should establish marketing funds that people can donate to. Then use those funds to run ad campaings to promote Lemmy and get people to join. We could even decide where to advertise like only on hackathons or IT conferences or other select avenues.

    Flawed premise.

    Lemmy is not reddit nor should it aspire to be.

    We don’t want to attract reddit users, we simply want vibrant communities.

    This type of attitude results in turds that won’t flush like lemmit.online et al - a blight upon our fertile landscape.

    Wow, do so many people believe Lemmy user are that much different than Reddit user? I mean I can totally forego all the bots, incels and astroturfing, but I do believe they migrate automatically once a platform got big enough. I don’t think there’s any way to stop that unless you want to keep Lemmy small forever.

    Lemmy needs to grow because Reddit needs to go. Reddit has become too powerful for a greedy company like that.

    I would be very interested to see the percentage of lemmy users that were reddit users right up until the point they switched primary platforms. I have to imagine that number is near 99%.

    You’ve missed my point.

    I’m simply saying that migrating reddit users en-masse is the wrong objective. Just make lemmy awesome and allow users to come organically.

    I couldn’t care less what happens to reddit. Let them hang around and soak up all the idiots.

    I’d like to echo this point. As soon as you set your objective to pull in Reddit users, you’ve set yourself up as the ā€œReddit alternativeā€, you’ll be chasing Reddit features and attempting to please the Reddit users. To succeed at this game is to essentially end up creating Reddit, but never surpassing.

    In my opinion, Lemmy needs to have a clear mindset on what Lemmy is and what it isn’t, then stick to that.

    It would be a real luxury to have that clear mindset, but I don’t think that’s possible.

    Lemmy is something like a teenager. It needs time for its own identity and culture to coalesce. For now I think the best we can do is to avoid the notion that we’re alt-reddit.

    Lemmy is already awesome. Case closed.

    Wow, do so many people believe Lemmy user are that much different than Reddit user?

    Some of us have been here longer than the June 2023 reddit migration. The problem is that you’re still a redditor at heart.

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    Wow, do so many people believe Lemmy user are that much different than Reddit user?

    Some are, but some are even worse than reddit, for example the cursed reddit custom of profile downvote… actually never happened to me on reddit but here it’s constant.

    Reddit made it so you can’t downvote from a profile page, it simply wouldn’t count. You had to open every comment individually and vote on them. Sorry that it is happening to you. Maybe make a new account, karma isn’t that important.
    Nah i don’t give a shit about karma i’m just genuinly depressed people are this angry and petty. But then again it’s not really surprising since it’s mostly coming from the US bootlickers.
    Or to put it another way, ā€œdo any of you have subreddits that can promote Lemmyā€. That’s the only way I envision this.
    Or we could buy ads on reddit 🤯