Kids? In this economy?

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It's suddenly dawned on me, the generation that is currently retired or near to retirement has effectively borrowed from the future (and from the Global South but the temporal focus is crucial for this). Fossil fuel industries which of course include agrochemicals and plastics are a debt borrowed from the future. The high living standards of that generation were artificially inflated, and now the young must pay back that ecological debt.

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Not that the retirement generation, I guess labelled mostly as boomers, in anyway consciously created this debt on their offspring. It was mostly unconscious, only a small minority realised it was happening.

@TenPastTwo @Miriamm Don't fool yourself. Many knew, especially the ones in power.
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Kids...?
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the best decision I've ever made was NOT having kids.
@Miriamm I have four kids, three grabbed from around the neighborhood when they were wandering alone, one I got from a strip mall orphanage.

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Maybe, instead, some of us read Paul Ehrlich's and Rachel Carson's books in the late '60s and decided to HELP the planet by not bringing in more generations of capitalist consumers and shoppers to use up dwindling resources and food...

Given the state of the world today, the climate crisis and the rise of extremist rightwing ideologies, in hindsight that seems a wise decision.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_Bomb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Spring

The Population Bomb - Wikipedia

@Miriamm every one of my coworkers under 35 has said exactly this, and they are all paid far above average.
@Miriamm paraphrasing, but "in a time of monsters, raise dragonslayers".
@Miriamm in this environment, having children is setting life to Hard mode. I abstained more out of my own selfish desires. The money savings were the icing on top.
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I have a six nieces. The world not need more! begin a uncle is great! πŸ˜…
@Miriamm @DemocracyMattersALot kids are great in this economy!! With those little hands, they can work in the mines. Silly silly.