sagethesagesageOct 8, 2023

How do you feel about TypeScript?

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/2269525

How do you feel about TypeScript? - Lemmygrad

Specifically, do you worry that Microsoft is going to eventually do the Microsoft thing and horribly fuck it up for everyone? I’ve really grown to appreciate the language itself, but I’m wary of it getting too ingrained at work only to have the rug pulled out from under us when it’s become hard to back out.

Show threadjivemasta

Maybe Im reading the vibe wrong but to me, it seems like when it comes to the programmer/sysadmin/poweruser side of Microsoft, they seem pretty good in terms of not being total shit. Their “normie” facing side though seems hella shady though. Things like ads in windows, the speculated subscription model for windows, office 365, one drive spam.

For example, things like vscode, WSL, winget, power tools, the new console app, powershell, typescript, opening up .net to native cross platform. All these things are pretty sweet and seem like something they wouldn’t be interested in doing.

It almost feels like there are two Microsofts right now and they are at odds with each other. So yeah, I guess enjoy it while it lasts, but always be ready to drop them like a sack of potatoes.

Oct 8, 2023 at 2:22pmWeb
Show threadathekenOct 8, 2023
Like I said in my other comment, I think people tend to lump all of MSFT’s activities into the same bucket. DevDiv has always seemed pretty decent, and I am usually reminded of this comic when people talk about MSFT’s “shady” activities.
Organizational Charts

Show threadlemmyvoreOct 9, 2023
Historically speaking they’ve been shitty on all possible sides. Some people take that as “fool me twice, shame on me”.
Show threadsleep_deprivedOct 9, 2023

Excuse me but I have it from a very reputable source that the saying goes “fool me once…

Shame on… Shame on you.

Fool me-- can’t get fooled again”

Show threadjeremyparkerOct 9, 2023
I remember that moment. It was like, halfway through the sentence he was like, “I don’t want the world to have a clip of me saying ‘shame on me,’ what do I do…” I wonder if he ever figured it out. Because what you don’t do, is what he did, just kinda stammer and stumble in a much more clippable way.
Show threadjeremyparkerOct 9, 2023

Bill Gates was and still is a shady piece of shit. Microsoft is a lot better without him - but that’s a low bar.

Personally what bothers me is that they’re starting to treat developers as users, the same as they treat Grandpa’s operating system, or Beth in accounting’s office suite: make everything “easy” and “intuitive” and “helpful”. I became a developer because I got tired of my computers getting in my way, so now I make them do what I want. I don’t want or need an intuitive, helpful interface. If you’re going to make a tool for me to use, just make the tool do that thing and that’s it.

I’ve mostly moved on from GitHub, only using it for little pushes because the green dots look good for prospective employers.

Show threadathekenOct 9, 2023

I’m curious, do you like cryptic errors from compilers, or do you like it when the compiler author provides some hints about a mistakes?

Or do you just not make mistakes?