All these products being all "This bottle contains recycled plastic" like, mate, at this point we *all* contain recycled plastic, please be more precise.
@zeborah Maybe they meant directly in the product itself.
*heavy sigh*
@zeborah our local supermarket has just replaced all the metal trolleys with plastic ones made from recycled milk bottles. Great but uh what happened to the old trolleys..?
@FrancescaJ Metal's at least recyclable so with any luck that happened - but yeah if the metal ones were still perfectly fine then it's a bit useless to replace them.
@FrancescaJ @zeborah they were probably sold to another grocer. carts/trolleys tend to be hand assembled and cost quite a bit - here in the US at least, many grocers install geofenced brakes on their carts, locking the wheels if you leave their premises. somehow, an expensive system like that is still cheaper than buying replacement carts /shrug

@astraleureka @FrancescaJ @zeborah

interesting. geofencing trolleys sounds extreme, but nothing surprises me. the bottom line is always the bottom line.
and australian news item (link below) says GPS tracking might soon be used here.

apparently some australian supermarkets will soon have plastic trolleys -with BS on the side about “going green” with recycled bottles etc, as if this is compensation for preferring to handle/stock products in plastic bottles and jars in the first place.

carts probably won’t be very strong if made from drink bottles etc as plastic breaks down with Ultra Violet light - one australian summer will be a test. there might be a high turnover.

depending on local government regulations, there are massive fines in australia for s’markets for every trolley dumped/ abandoned, and i should imagine it will be cheaper to retrieve them if they are lighter. mostly, local governments insist stores use a “coin return” lock. (originally, when the cost was too low and people didn’t bother returning them, i was poor and happy to round up trolleys to return so i could buy milk)

currently they use $1 or $2 coins, but as australia is *almost* cashless, hardly anyone has a pocketful of coins any more, and most use plastic trolley tokens provided by stores. at least once every 10 times i can’t get the token out and have to leave it, so refuse to use coins. apparently people sometimes use 10c coins, or the round end of a key, but for the most part the system works, and few trolleys travel further than a carpark - unless someone needs a strong cart for collecting something heavy, or they don’t have a car so use it to take their shopping home.

not sure i like the idea of authorising a trolley deposit by card, though 🤔 - these days it’s near impossible to get banks to fix dud transactions. might have to get yet another debit card, dedicated solely to shopping trollies 😜

https://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/coins-to-unlock-shopping-trolleys-could-be-a-thing-of-past-with-new-tech-that-tracks-them-if-abandoned/news-story/a2519e0617b2b04df7240e8cd41ab27c

@maudenificent Ugh, those recycled carts are going to be godawful. I lived in Las Vegas for a few years, also home to extreme UV, and even carts made from new material were regularly in shambles.

The geofenced brakes are extreme - but also very unreliable, and easy to bypass as well (right from your phone, https://www.begaydocrime.com )
It's a very typical techbro-style solution that is fairly well disconnected from reality. GPS would be a bit more sensible, but also far more costly to manufacture... and probably just as easy to bypass.

I've always liked the coin return idea, but it never took root in grocers afaik. Airports (used to?) use the method for baggage carts, but I doubt those are coin-op these days. Hardly any Americans use our $1 coin, to the point where I've been called a scammer for trying to use them 🤪 Rather surprising considering we still make heavy use of coinage, only really starting to take an impact during pandemic times.

Hack this Shopping Cart

@zeborah 😂😂😂😖🥺
@zeborah T-shirt please "This body contains recycled plastic"
@zeborah I don't think our bodies actually use it so the recycled part is questionable but we definitely have it in us by now!
@zeborah meanwhile I'm confused why food packaging still tout sea salt as a good thing.
@mwt 100% pure sea salt now with extra microplastics? I like to imagine the refining process removes most of that along with the krill but if not it's probably not the biggest source in my diet.

@zeborah

Also: "We mixed recycled plastic with wood shavings, making it impossible to recycle further, buy our new Eco product!!"

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