TheOneWithTheHairthe FDA is considering a ban on menthol cigarette sales
maajIf you only ban the menthols, it’s racist. If you ban all cigarettes, it’s health-forward and progressive. Ban all cigs.
seathruOr, how about we let people put whatever they want into their own body?
bayankBecause of the children, won’t someone think of the children?!
They already aren’t allowed to smoke!
xigoiBut parents are allowed to expose them to the smoke.
Do we need to ban everything that a shitty parent might not be able to keep away from their kids?
Why not expand the definition of child abuse to include these things instead of punishing people who are never around kids?
Why not expand the definition of child abuse to include these things instead of punishing people who are never around kids?
That sounds like a great idea, but it’s going to be impossible to enforce.
I’d be with you if second and third hand smoke wasn’t a thing. And also if I didn’t just kick nicotine a month back for causing severe pain in my hands and wrists.
So if some can’t enjoy something responsibly, no one can?
Wtf is 3rd hand smoke?
The theory that when you smoke, the nicotine binds to surfaces the smoke touches, causing cancer to anyone who comes near surfaces that nicotine has touched.
It was a "truth" run around in the 80s as we were discovering the nature of radiation, so lots of war on drug "research" papers got published functionally saying nicotine and radiation are the same thing.
CatoblepasI mean, nicotine does saturate things when you smoke in an enclosed area. It’s impossible to paint over the stained walls of a smoker’s house without chemically stripping them first, because all the accumulated tar will just seep through the paint and leave brown stains. There’s no way that shit’s healthy.
You mistake the word "nicotine" for the word "tar".
2 wildly different concepts.
Are you suggesting that tar doesn’t contain nicotine or other harmful substances found in cigarettes? Because lol.
That’s okay though, I’m sure you are very special and immune to it.
yukichigaiNormally I'd agree, but cigarettes in particular are a product that is designed to be as addictive as possible with a laundry list of negative health impacts and virtually zero positive ones. Combine that with the fact that you aren't just putting it in your body but the body of anyone within breathing distance of you, there's a strong case to be made for banning them outright.
Put it another way, if cigarettes are legal then marijuana, LSD, MDMA, and a whole host of other drugs should be legal too.
Combine that with the fact that you aren’t just putting it in your body but the body of anyone within breathing distance of you,
That’s part of responsible use. I’m ok with only letting smokers smoke in specialty ventilated & filtered areas. Easy for me to say, I don’t smoke. But if anyone wants to make an informed decision to, they should be able to.
Put it another way, if cigarettes are legal then marijuana, LSD, MDMA, and a whole host of other drugs should be legal too.
I emphatically agree.
Put it another way, if cigarettes are legal then marijuana, LSD, MDMA, and a whole host of other drugs should be legal too.
Yes. Yes they should.
Bruh, you know tobacco is a plant. Right?
Alcohol needs so much work to be made.
Tobacco is a plant.
Just like weed.
So's hemlock, what's your point?
That noone "made it" the way it is, and if dudes gonna smoke a plant, let dude smoke a plant.
Cigarettes != tobacco. Tobacco is an ingredient in cigarettes, and not the only one, not by a long shot. Literally dozens of additives are included in cigarettes, many of which are designed to make them more addictive.
Secondly, modern tobacco absolutely was "made" the way it is, first through selective breeding and then genetic modification to (among other things) increase Nicotine content. Much in the same way that modern weed is far stronger than the stuff grown 50 years ago, so too is tobacco.
Tell that to all the smokers trying to quit who wish their younger self had not started in the first place.
Vape for the same effect. I don’t want to choke on what you’re putting in your body.