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downpunxxThe Catholic Church has actively ran the longest largest worldwide Pedophile ring in human history. For the past 1800 years the Catholic Church recruited, supported, obfuscated, defended, and excused pedophilia, which continues to this day. The fact the Catholic Church still allowed to operate, in any way shape or form, with youth of any kind, in any country, anywhere, means we've all purposefully lost the thread. Beside the Catholic Church being criminal, it's only shown how very little adults care about the systematic raping of children. Like, at all.
yetAnotherUserThat’s not the worst thing they did.
Ask yourself: why did the Holocaust happen exactly? Who is responsible for almost all antisemitism, from past to present?
That’s a bit of a stretch don’t you think. I don’t like the church either but saying they’re responsible for the Holocaust is quite a leap lmfao
Captain PoofterThey are unquestionably responsible for helping a load of high level Nazi murderers to escape after the war, so maybe it’s not too much of a leap considering how pervasive the Nazi message has remained after all these years
Harvey656That’s helping them escape, not being responsible for what nazis did. I mean it’s irreparably damaging to their already abominable image but it wasn’t their fault Hitler rose to power.
I wasn’t offering that as evidence that they were responsible for the Holocaust, I was offering it as an example of their close ties with the church. Unless you think they just became buddy buddy with them after the war ended?
Perhaps but the problem is that we don’t know how deep their role was. There plenty of reasons hate on the catholic church without inventing things.
The problem here is that you don’t know how deep their role was. Nothing is being made up. Pope John XXIII even wrote about the role Catholic antisemitism played in the lead up to the Holocaust.
The Catholic Church and the Holocaust | Origins
Auschwitz today is a deceptively peaceful place. Walking down the tree-lined streets between the red brick dormitories, you can easily imagine yourself on the grounds of a small New England college. There are few outward signs that an estimated 1.5 million people were slaughtered here. One of them was a Roman Catholic nun, Sister Teresia Benedicta of the Cross. On Oct. 11, Sister Teresia Benedicta — who is better known by her given name of Edith Stein — was formally declared a saint and martyr by Pope John Paul II.
So did the US government, in Operation Paperclip. Arguably worse was the protection that the US government gave towards Japanese war criminals in Unit 731. The US govt has protected / harbored some of the most evil people to have lived in the past century.
Nice whataboutism!
Not directly, no.
But would you mind exlaining to me why the Nazi’s social darwinism heavily focused on Jews?What’s the root cause of antisemitism?
I can answer it: the church’s centuries of antisemitism. There’s a reason antisemitism was this extremely widespread in Europe.
Antisemitism was prevalent long before the Catholic Church, and was prevalent outside of the church. Unfortunately it’s one of those things that is just shitty behavior, and not exclusively a shitty church thing
R0cket_M00seBecause Adolf Hitler used the Jews as a scapegoat for post-WW1 financial troubles and used phrases like “Bolsheviks” and “Marxism” to convince right leaning German citizens that the Jews were not only the cause of their problems but actively working to destroy their way of life.
This instilled a belief system in the fundamentalist “patriots” that it was up to them in order to fix the issues by standing against the Jewish population, this lead to events like Kristallnacht where businesses and homes were violated and destroyed in an attempt to make Jews fear for their lives.
Eventually when the Nazis started rounding up the Jews, not only were most of their neighbors okay with it happening, it wasn’t uncommon for them to assist in reporting and turning them in.
So you could say social engineering and propaganda over the course of years were the primary reason why the holocaust occurred, as it would face too much push back from an unprimed group that hasnt been molded over time to assess said group as “the enemy.”
But why did Hitler pick Jews? And why was tbe public so receptive?
Completely unrelated quote from Wikipedia’s article about antisemitism:
The Enlightenment adopted some anti-Judaic stereotypes, such as the juxtaposition of a supposedly nationally limited and materialistic Jewish religion of hate against a universal and idealistic Christian religion of love. In the 19th century, Christian and racist hostility toward Jews merged. Thus, Christian and racist enemies of Jews together revived the medieval ritual murder legends. Since 1900, nationalist Christians were at the same time anti-Semites, such as the Protestant church party “German Christians” of the Nazi era.
And why was tbe public so receptive?
Reread my previous comment.
joel_feilaits not like the protestant were famous for being projew.