🌺 Cat PöñíçkøvāFour mains and four USB ports for three seats, someone took this really seriously. (All while most other cd carriages have often just like one plug per 4 seats if any.)
Alon@pony ICEs are one plug per two seats.
@Alon with Czech railways it usually depend on the mood and supplier of whoever did the retrofit, when it’s new long distance ish rolling stock, it tends to be a plug per two seats as well, however, shockingly enough, commercial open access ops almost always go for a plug per seat because it doesn’t cost much more and people like it
@pony @jon Proposal: abolish first class, make second class better. In exchange for FDP's support for this plan, pass a YIMBY law, reduce every C2 language requirement to C1, require government offices to speak English, and, I don't know, announce a new nuclear plant somewhere (it doesn't need to actually go through with how high the construction costs are, but eh, it's FDP).
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Birds or Trains?@bklyngap @DiegoBeghin @pony @jon Regional trains here are generally underfull, except specifically when they're either ersatz intercities for D-Ticket holders or ersatz commuter rail to suburbs beyond the S-Bahn. So usually first class is just charging more for the same service...
@bklyngap @DiegoBeghin @pony @jon I don't know. I don't fully get what the point of it is - can't tell if it's just a more straightforward way of doing market segmentation than airline-style yield management or RENFE-style differential pricing for different speed classes. So it boils down to extra revenue vs. fewer seats, and I think that depends on the railroad. I think the first class fare premium on the TGV is on the low side?
@Alon @DiegoBeghin @jon @pony yeah the pricing model itself seems to depend on the RR. A low premium for TGV seems silly given their general ticket structure.
@DiegoBeghin @Alon @jon @pony I sorta have to assume that JR gets the business model right with no yield mgmt, reserved, unreserved, business-travel class (green car) and a high end first only on under capacity routes…
@Alon @pony @DiegoBeghin @jon that being said you couldn’t do 5 abreast in Europe, so I’m not sure how you translate it.
@bklyngap @pony @jon @DiegoBeghin Yeah, it's always more pitch, though not that much - the Shinkansen Green Car is 1.16 m if I remember correctly, whereas standard class is 1 m, translating to 17 vs. 20 seating rows.