Comment105The Fediverse should do what redditors have always wanted and Reddit Inc. has always refused to do; Distinguish between NSFW and NSFL.
Not Safe for Work versus Not Safe for Life?
gaviI think content warnings would be a better approach to this, all other fediverse software have content warnings anyway. Making community content to force use content warnings would be helpful too.
i agree, use of cw would be more useful because ’nsfw’ is just too vague and not specific enough.
Porn be gore
Not safe for looking. Gore, usually.
I’ve never once heard it called “Not Safe for Looking”.
Thats like a few years ago when my wife said she thought LOL was “Lots of Love”.
I could swear back in the 00s it started as Not Safe for Landing but I couldn’t find anything to back that up when I checked
Interesting. I’ve never heard that one either, but perhaps. These things evolve.
Just provide the alt tag
Al Gore?
Lol even I thought it’s not safe for life and was wondering what’s that about
Life is correct, NSFW is just something risqué or something that has bad language that you shouldn’t look at at work, but NSFL is like gore or something disgusting or terrible that you shouldn’t look at EVER unless you’re desensitized lol
NSFL can fuck with your head and might come back to haunt you.
OK thanks for the explanation. Now the difference between both makes sense to me.
Not safe for lemmy
This is one of my dream features to make lemmynsfw moderation easier, alongside site mods and content warnings ~(alongside the ability to edit and force nsfw on posts in specific communities… and maybe being able to by default turn off instances caching OUR images as a “do not cache” server flag…)~
colourlessponyCan we add spoilers too?
They are already there. But it’s in wonky markdown…
::: spoiler spoiler ___ :::
OwlBoyHuh, that does not work in Voyager.
Nor in Thunder
andrew_bidlawNor in Connect.
!And there was the other way to do them.!<
SnipingNinjaIdk if it works in sync or not
TheGreenGolemIt works
poppyStill doesn’t work in Voyager sadly.
Nor in Thunder
AzzuAnd so, begun the client wars have.
!Eternity for Lemmy test!<
>!“Insert text here”!<
Edit: Cool, it works.
Nsfw, Nsfl, and “Porn”
I like nsfw memes but dont want my feed full of porn. I have a seperate account for porn.
Butball the sfw porn subs ruined it.
Need a new tag like “sexporn” or “genitals”
Sounds like we’re just describing tags at this point.
Shush your incompatible logic 😉
I think sfw porn is still porn.
“Who are all these people in officewear? I’ve never seen them here.”
“Um”
Nope. Its not. Pretty sure my boss would agree if caught with sfw porn on company laptop.
CablePorn is definitely sfw
Yes, a renaissance artwork that contains naked women, actual hardcore porn, and a Russian soldier being blown to pieces in Ukraine, should not occupy the same “NSFW” tag…
Of course there’s going to be grey area stuff, but 3 buckets like this is much much better than a single “everything people might not want to see” bucket.
TheCeeThis and also
- politics or religious
- dull stuff like sports
By “porn”, I suppose you mean nudity?
At this point just have a tag system and let people vote on tags. It’s a great way to get to reddit-like niche content curation at smaller acale across many smaller instances.
I like this idea, an evolution of label system rather than just reimplementing the reddit model
Good idea. Unfortunately this depends on self-regulation.
kamenladyIt could be named “flair”, instead of tag. This would make Lemmy strand out and set it apart from things like reddit.
CorrodedI feel like the lines at that point get way too blurred. It would be like having a “porn” and “full blown porn” tag or hardcore versus softcore.
I will admit a distinct NSFW tag could be good for somewhat taboo stuff like mildly offensive jokes for example.
ComradeKhoumragWould be kind of hilarious. You can have one normal tag like “serious” is for ask lemmy, then a million tags like soft core, forced, NSFL, etc…
Like the fediverse would be catering to SO MUCH PORN at that point
I don’t think it would mean much with each instance having their own rules.
I can only imagine instances arguing and defederating from each other because they have different rules regarding tagging.
What if we just had specific tags that we could filter for. everything gets the nsfw tag but we have specific tags for nudity, violence, etc.
I’m not sure my concern would still be blurred lines and people either forgetting to use tags or not realizing how or when to use them. For example a news article about police violence getting tagged with the violence tag on some instances but not others.
I’m also opposed to auto or over moderation and I feel like it’s one of those things that could potentially push Lemmy in that direction eventually.
How do you actually find porn on Lemmy? I’ve tried and failed.
Apparently lemmynsfw.com.
But it’s mostly celebrity pics, so I’m not entirely sure where else.
streetfestivalYou need to enable ‘NSFW’ content in settings, which probably requires an account. Without that, you just see ‘SFW’ content (on feeds, at least), which is as you describe
You’re only seeing celebrity pics because that is the only SFW community on lemmynsfw. By default most lemmy instances hide NSFW posts unless you’re logged in with an account set to show NSFW. They are running 0.18.3-nsfwpatch, so if you navigate there directly you will see everything, but viewing lemmynsfw logged out from another instance will only show you celebrity pictures.
I have NSFW Content enabled but I still am not seeing the porn (I’m on lemm.ee)
So Lemmy is the Linux of smut, watch a 15 min tutorial and you’ll probably have it set up. If not, it’s comprehensive troubleshooting time! That’s always the sexiest part anyways.
TheBestsort by new search term “nsfw”, subscribe and filter from there.
pascalNSFW is an American construct, in Europe people don’t get scared by nudity. If Lemmy is truly worldwide, we can get rid of it.
In Europe you wouldn’t want a dick on your phone while you are in the office or on the subway
People would literally rather care more about why are you on lemmy or reddit during work time than your sexual preferences.
Dig it
NSFW and NSFL can mean different things to different people and cultures.
Best example is that in some countries, showing a boob isn’t straight away NSFW as much as it is in America.
Opposite example: In America, showing blood is almost G rated at this point (at least it feels that way to a non-American watching American media). In China you effectively can’t show blood in any media.
As has been mentioned in the comments already one solution would be more specific categories, probably customizable by site admins to suit their particular site culture. Either that or a site can stick to just a single NSFW tag to donate a more “hey, this might not be the best thing to look at on the job”.