stopthatgirl7Germans caught celebrating Oktoberfest with Nazi salutes
Performing Nazi salutes has been illegal in Germany and Austria since the end of World War II and is punishable by law with prison time.
atlasraven31Proud neo-nazis or drunk idiots?
If you’re a drunk idiot “jokingly” doing nazi salutes as an adult, you’re just a nazi.
I think you’re severely underestimating how stupid some people can be without malicious intent. Not that I’m justifying their behavior in any way, but it’s possible they’re just really stupid.
Being really stupid is a requirement for being a Neo-Nazi. Stupidity is not an excuse.
ValiantDustAnd I think you are underestimating how much of a deeply ingrained taboo the nazi salute is for the typical German. You are right, some people can be very stupid, especially drunk. But no German who has not been in some way socilized among nazis would be stupid enough to ever casually do a nazi salute. You just don’t do it.
The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they’re not at least right leaning.
The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they’re not at least right leaning.
If you live in Germany and as an adult don’t know that a nazi salute/imagery can get you arrested, you are beyond an outlier. It is reasonable to assume most of the are doing it intentionally.
Not for nothing, but it could also be tourists. Not defending nazis, because I would argue that being drunk lowers inhibitions, but it doesn’t make you a nazi.
Yes, tourists sometimes think it would be funny. But this did not happen at the Oktoberfest in Munich. It was an Oktoberfest in a village in Saxony with about 2500 inhabitants (actually a collection of several villages). I would bet the chances of tourists being present are very close to zero.
Some people visit Saxony. Cool castles, Dresden… yeah Ok probably not tourists.
Location + I mentioned several times people who live in Germany for this reason!
Right, but we’re talking about the people in this photo. Germans and Austrians know not to make nazi salutes because you could face legal repercussions. That’s a weird concept for Americans, though. I kind of wish we did jail more nazis, but that’s besides the point.
Read the article. We are not just taking about the people in this photo and it’s a tiny town. Probably no tourists there at all. You need to read the article.
NobsiThere is no “nazi but just ironically”
kjr@atlasraven31 Possibly drunk proud neo-nazi idiots.