stopthatgirl7Germans caught celebrating Oktoberfest with Nazi salutes
Performing Nazi salutes has been illegal in Germany and Austria since the end of World War II and is punishable by law with prison time.
SevFTWSurprising no one unfortunately…
Proud neo-nazis or drunk idiots?
If you’re a drunk idiot “jokingly” doing nazi salutes as an adult, you’re just a nazi.
I think you’re severely underestimating how stupid some people can be without malicious intent. Not that I’m justifying their behavior in any way, but it’s possible they’re just really stupid.
Being really stupid is a requirement for being a Neo-Nazi. Stupidity is not an excuse.
ValiantDustAnd I think you are underestimating how much of a deeply ingrained taboo the nazi salute is for the typical German. You are right, some people can be very stupid, especially drunk. But no German who has not been in some way socilized among nazis would be stupid enough to ever casually do a nazi salute. You just don’t do it.
The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they’re not at least right leaning.
The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they’re not at least right leaning.
If you live in Germany and as an adult don’t know that a nazi salute/imagery can get you arrested, you are beyond an outlier. It is reasonable to assume most of the are doing it intentionally.
Not for nothing, but it could also be tourists. Not defending nazis, because I would argue that being drunk lowers inhibitions, but it doesn’t make you a nazi.
Yes, tourists sometimes think it would be funny. But this did not happen at the Oktoberfest in Munich. It was an Oktoberfest in a village in Saxony with about 2500 inhabitants (actually a collection of several villages). I would bet the chances of tourists being present are very close to zero.
Some people visit Saxony. Cool castles, Dresden… yeah Ok probably not tourists.
Location + I mentioned several times people who live in Germany for this reason!
Right, but we’re talking about the people in this photo. Germans and Austrians know not to make nazi salutes because you could face legal repercussions. That’s a weird concept for Americans, though. I kind of wish we did jail more nazis, but that’s besides the point.
Read the article. We are not just taking about the people in this photo and it’s a tiny town. Probably no tourists there at all. You need to read the article.
NobsiThere is no “nazi but just ironically”
kjr@atlasraven31 Possibly drunk proud neo-nazi idiots.
Should be easy to catch and jail them, if photos and videos are being taken all over the event.
Germany should learn how Americans were able to catch so many Nazis during the Jan 6th insurrection. 😂
Did you read the article? They think 3 people were making the salute. Suspect that might be hard to prove from pictures alone and a still can be just someone’s arms raised like shown in the stock picture included. This is such a dumb article for clicks.
Did you watch the video? They clearly did the Hitler salute and violated German law.
ZerushIt’s not only the Hitler salute, also the nazi song with all in this Tent. The Oktoberfest is an event that attracts a lot of international tourism, but access to the majority of the Bierzelte is reserved for certain groups of high-ranking politicians and industrialists. Given that Bavaria is a Bundesland where the CSU has always reigned and in recent years also the AfD, both far-right and fascist parties, are not so surprised by scenes like these, which are surely not the first time this has happened.
This happens when, in a misunderstood democracy and freedom, to tolerate those who would eliminate these values, when they could, and even given a voice in parliaments. They are a danger that must be eliminated from public life, because, with their populism and lies, they can eliminate all the civil rights and social advances achieved, as happened in 1933. But apparently, little has been learned. It makes no sense to prohibit Nazi symbols, when on the other hand xeno/homophobic and fascist speeches are tolerated in parliament and disseminated in the media.
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This did not happen at Oktoberfest (Munich, Bavaria). This was in some village in Saxony.
☭ Blursty ☭Maybe they were just Ukrainian refugees? Isn’t that allowed there in that case?
Instance checks out.
NepentheA russiaboo, unsure of the legal implications of stepping into someone else's country? More likely than you think.
cnutfeelmylegsBAVARIAN BEER HOUSE IN BRISBANE SUCKS ASS!!!!
AkasazhOk mate sleep it off
I guess bogans like it
Amazing that something not pro-Germany or anti-American slipped on to here. They must still be asleep.
welcome to your bubble. german subs are full of critical stuff. e.g. search for “Bahn”.
So are the history books
I’ve been up since 4am (insomnia), so nope.
Tell me the last pro-Germany thing you read on the internet. Ill wait.
I like Germany?
Lol, that’s a good one. 49€ ticket probably? At least until they cancel it…
That actually was pretty good news, yes.
possibly a catTell me the last pro-Germany thing you read on the internet. Ill wait.
Comments from American redditors.
ich_iel is like 90% anti-neo-nazi stuff nowadays. I don’t even speak German and can tell that much.
Why is it not 100%
10% is reserved for Pedalo.
That was a disappointing Where’s Waldo the Nazi. Everyone is either clapping or some shit. Waste of time. At least the dude with the roasted chicken for a hat was fun. 1/5 don’t recommend.
FollyDolly“Where’s Waldo the Nazi.” I almost spit out my water. 🤣
I also stared at the picture for way too long before realizing there was a video down below.
In Saxony. Unfortunately I’m not even surprised anymore.
There is no duo more iconic than Germans and Nazism.
This ia huge clickbait sadly. It’s some random small oktoberfest, where some drunken germans maybe doing the Hitler greeting.
I’m not saying it’s okay what they do, but by far not world news. This would be maximum local news if at all.
Of all the posts on the Internet, why is it this one you take issue with?
Of all the comments on the Internet, why is it this one you take issue with?
The implication of whining about click bait on this post which is no worse than anything else, is Nazi sympathizing. That’s why this post is different.
Why do you have to choose one?
Why make a point of only this one?
One doesn’t have to publicly criticise literally before criticizing this. That’s ridiculous.
Why were you complaining about the comment? Aren’t there more important problems to worry about, like world hunger and world peace, or the invasion of UA?
Lol more downvotes please! Let’s not pretend we left the Nazis, sympathizers and troll farms on Reddit!
Well they are also playing Erika which is also a right wing dog whistle, though maybe not as uncommon in these circles, as outright Nazi salutes
I wish i could extinguish every trace of fascism in every aspect of reality. I really do.
Stupid Nazis are hindering me from enjoying old german folk songs without being judged :(
Well I’m thinking the same, but then I’m not sure where to put this video (ignoring the sound track) on a scale from drunken singing to obvious Nazi salute.
Maybe i don’t know enough about Bierzelt culture. If they were singing Hölle, hölle, hölle or Atemlos, would you notice the (right) arm in the air? The arm movement seems unnatural (if the intention was signing with arms in the air), but this could still sort-of pass as not 100% Heil Hitler.
The band chose the song, for sure, that’s questionable. The event organisers should not allow this to happen. But the guests, should they leave? Sit down quietly and wait for the next song?
I could be in that tent and not recognise the song. Not my kind of music.
I could see people innocently copying the movement of others. It may be a tent full of Nazis, scary, but the video does not proof this.
Maybe i don’t know enough about Bierzelt culture. If they were singing Hölle, hölle, hölle or Atemlos, would you notice the (right) arm in the air?
Did we watch the same video? In the Twitter thread I saw the lady right in front was doing multiple Nazi salutes in a row, very excited about the song. Don’t think there’s any ambiguity what she was doing
blocking op it is
Austria has no part in this, the art student was rejected as was the custom. Ask the neighbour for why they fed and welcomed some maniac autocrat tryant
And today these silly fucks run along dressed pp
Reminder that germany never underwent denazification; there are still nazi members in power to this day.
Could you name one?