“Yeah, they’re gone”: Musk confirms cuts to X’s election integrity team — “‘Election Integrity’ Team.. was undermining election integrity,” Musk writes

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“Yeah, they’re gone”: Musk confirms cuts to X’s election integrity team — “‘Election Integrity’ Team.. was undermining election integrity,” Musk writes - Lemmy.world

“Yeah, they’re gone”: Musk confirms cuts to X’s election integrity team — “‘Election Integrity’ Team… was undermining election integrity,” Musk writes::“‘Election Integrity’ Team… was undermining election integrity,” Musk writes.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The Elon Musk-owned social network formerly named Twitter has reportedly cut half of its election integrity team just weeks after saying it would expand the group.

Now operating under the name X, Musk’s firm “is cutting around half of the global team devoted to limiting disinformation and election fraud on the platform, including the head of the group, according to three people familiar with the situation,” The Information reported yesterday, adding:

The cuts hit all four Dublin-based members of the team, including Aaron Rodericks, its leader, who is based in Ireland, the people familiar with the matter said.

In response he said he received “a barrage of threatening, and abusive messages” from persons who wrongly believed the posts were an attempt by X to censor free speech and influence election outcomes.

But on August 29, X said it was “expanding our safety and elections teams to focus on combating manipulation, surfacing inauthentic accounts and closely monitoring the platform for emerging threats.”

Using nearly identical language as last month’s announcement, she said X is “expanding the safety and election teams all around the world to focus on combating things like manipulation, surfacing of inauthentic accounts and closely monitoring the platform for any emerging threats.”

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This guy 👈 [sing-song]
I’m going to be so happy when Musk gets brought up on election charges.

That would require us to actually have some semblance of regulatory oversight to prevent this kind of behavior by tech companies in the first place.

This country BARELY held together through the fire-hose of falsehoods during the last election. It is mighty bold (and dare I say naive) of you to believe we will be so lucky the next time. I do not share your optimism on either front.

Meh. You worry too much. According to your narrative they were telling us the truth before this…. Haha
That might never happen if Twitter becomes as obscure as myspace or tumblr.

conservative doesn’t like being treated like an equal, decides to abolish the group that produced evidence suggesting equality

Sounds about right

I have a hunch that in the terrifyingly near future, we’re going to see the internet absolutely dominated by enshitification.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s bad now …because like the frogs in hot water, we collectively just tolerate changes for the worse. But it used to be small incremental changes over a long period.

Then this Musk asshole comes along, looks at the frogs ever so slowly cooking… and cranks the stove to max, pisses in the frog-pot, supplements the heating element with a welding torch, and flips the frogs off as he pours gasoline all over the kitchen.

And the frogs JUST FUCKING TAKE IT.

What message does that send to the rest of the internet?

Here’s a bit of good news. The idea that frogs just wait to get boiled is proven false. Every animal has a limit to what they will tolerate due to self preservation. The from will jump out when it gets too hot.

That being said, I just recently watched Idiocracy… I’m a bit worried.

Just remember that, regardless of the creators’ intents, Idiocracy is essentially pro-eugenics.
If that’s the outcome of abstaining from eugenics, I’m willing to give it another shot.

That’s not true at all, genetics only play a part in the mental development of a person, much if it is related to the environment where this person has been growing.

It is as with talent, some people are better than other at certain activities but even the most gifted person cannot compete with a professional who has spent his life training and studying his craft.

The same can be said for “intelligence”, if you are never taught to think you’ll never think once in your lifetime, even if you are the exact copy of Leonardo da Vinci; on the other hand even if you are thick as a rock but you’ve been growing in a society focused on your development you’ll be able to become a normal person.

Eugenetic politics do nothing for humanity betterment, social structure is much more important IMHO

Okay, I agree with you and I’m not sure why you’re saying I’m wrong. That movie definitely has a eugenics bent and that’s why I’m saying people shouldn’t put too much stock in it.

Yeah it’s in the opening thesis of the movie:

uneducated people kept having more kids and learned people kept putting it off

Not saying I agree with the premise at all, and I’m putting it much more lightly than the movie does.

Because the movie dies not hint at eugenetics as solution to the crisis, it’s a hymn against stupidity and a cry to better educate the masses. First of all about sexual education and the danger of unprotected sex and secondly about politics and civic duties. I mean, I really don’t see how one could interpret the message of the movie as “do eugenetics”, that’s all.

I think the people seeing it as pro-eugenics are latching onto the “stupid person makes stupid babies” part as being the reason for the Idiocracy. Basically they think the movie is arguing “IQ is 100% nature and 0% nurture”

But IMO the intro pretty clearly showed that the main factor in the degradation of society is that the low IQ family were raising too many kids in a chaotic environment with no actual parenting.

Eugenics IMO is just another way to blame poor people for the bad luck of their birth. If we truly wanted to “perfect humanity” there are a million better ways, like free education.

Just piggy backing off of what you’re saying

You should be worried, in the movie they recognized their stupidity and made way for the smarter character to lead.

our timeline is worse than idiocracy

It has been predicted for years that the Internet would split and I’m all for it at this point.
That’s an interesting take. I’m kind of curious what you mean by the split. It seems like it’s already split a few times, and I sort of see Lemmy as another split. I think the biggest craziness that will get thrown into the mix is serious amounts of AI content, which I know people are tired of hearing about now, but it’s a huge deal. I think people are underestimating its power.
Let’s hope the FCC and whatever other agencies applicable, get teeth and clamp down hard on how these social media giants. the way they operate its damn near treasonous at this point how open they are with allowing other governments to influence their policies. Especially with advertising and to children.

Most everyone I know doesn’t have a Twitter or Instagram. Obv I deleted my reddit. What are people supposed to do except just not use the platform? Most authors I want to follow are on substack or mastodon.

I think that as the platforms further enshittify, people will realize there are no intelligent conversations happening on platforms like X, Instagram, Facebook, etc. Ragebait content can only captivate audiences for so long before they either abandon it or are brainwashed by it. If everyone on X is a musk dickrider right wing lunatic then it makes it easier for sane people to stay off of it.

What message does that send to the rest of the internet?

You know… it would be funny but also sad and believable if he’s doing all of this just to spite the internet because we wouldn’t let that one emo leather longboat pic die.

well now you have to share this picture and keep it going
It’s like Trump running for president because Obama and Seth Meyers roasted him in front of the world… So much awful shit in our world is a direct result of rich, whiney narcissists making things worse for everyone as collateral damage in whatever petty feud they’ve mostly invented in their heads.
But for real, I am actually fully convinced that that was the inception point in Trump’s head for the idea of going for the presidency.
Your point still stands, but as far as I can tell in my city, no one really cared about or used Twitter. Even more so after Elongated Muskrat took over. Twitter was always an echo chamber for the most part when it came to mainstream stuff. Sure, there are a few niche cases, but with those cases there was usually already an alternative. Twitter was never as popular to normal people as it is to influencers, celebs, and for some weird reason government personnel or groups. That’s just my experience with the platform at least. I do not know a single person who even used Twitter once in my entire life.
When you’ve lived a life of privilege, equality seems like oppression.
@L4s Funny how musk fears the truth
It’s modern social media, not pedalling conspiracy theories is bad for business.
They were being fair and balanced, not favoring a particular candidate or party. This of course is not what Musk intended, so they got the axe.
If 4chan made Trump win in 2016, Twitter might make Trump win in 2024. Which is a scary thought. Just imagine the level of control one rich man can have over the information highway, Twitter, one of the biggest social media sites in the world, used still by many politicians, journalists and reporters on both sides. It’s happening.
If 4chan made Trump win in 2016, Twitter might make Trump win in 2024. Which is a scary thought. Just imagine the level of control one rich man can have over the information highway, Twitter, one of the biggest social media sites in the world, used still by many politicians, journalists and reporters on both sides. It’s happening.

Just imagine the level of control one rich man can have over the information highway.

Rupert Murdoch 2: Information Highway to Hell.

Twitter made Trump win in 2016. Like, did people seriously forget about „Trump tweeted“ headlines that dominated daily news for years? The same news that would then claim a small obscure website like 4Chan made Trump president single-handedly. I mean I almost can‘t blame you for memory holing those years, but claiming Twitter wasn‘t absolute dog water before Musk is simply wrong.
Mueller has me convinced Russian social media farms made Trump win.
James Fucking Comey certainly didn’t help.
ah our dayli reminder that Elon Musk is a cunt and he always deliver!

Wait, so the team in charge of misinformation got misinformed about getting fired instead of expanded?

Guy sure loves his irony…

Guess they should have fact checked it.
The people in charge of sacking the people responsible for the credits have been sacked.
this American life had a good segment about a content moderator at twitter www.thisamericanlife.org/797/…/act-two-7
Going Down With the Censorships - This American Life

When to leave Twitter is a question lots of executives faced when Elon Musk took over the company — those who weren't immediately fired, anyway.

This American Life

This week’s On with Kara Swisher has back to back interviews with Yoel Roth (the guy in the TAL ep) and the new CEO of Twitter, Linda Yaccarino and it’s worth a listen.

The juxtaposition of the two interviews is something. Roth comes across as a smart, serious person trying to (and admittedly sometimes failing) be a good steward of the internet and tackles the challenges using facts and data. Yaccarino follows up by literally being the definition of a stooge. Very clearly not attached to reality, doesn’t know things that Musk has tweeted in spite of saying at the top of the interview they’re 100% attached and in the loop with everything Elon’s doing. Absolute clown show.

So yeah, expect literally everyone to have a hand in the cookie jar come the '24 election. There isn’t enough competence in the company to fill a thimble at this point, and leadership at the company probably is either entirely ignorant of the problem(Yacco), or actively engaging in sabotage in tandem (Musk.)

‎On with Kara Swisher: The Yoel Roth-Linda Yaccarino Showdown on Apple Podcasts

‎Show On with Kara Swisher, Ep The Yoel Roth-Linda Yaccarino Showdown - Sep 28, 2023

Apple Podcasts
Funny that the worse the Republicans are doing the more some people want to take the filters off of social media.

Right Wingers have always gotten preferential treatment and soft touch moderation on social media, because…

  • Their user base is fucking morons who click every ad, and buy tons of stupid shit (specially if it has their team name on it) bringing in disproportionate income

  • They know the bulk of their moderation problems are from Right wingers, and don’t want to look biased and drive them away by holding them to the same standard they hold everyone else, So they just let the right wingers get away with shit that would get cracked down and account bans handed out for anyone else.

  • Maybe that was the plan all along.

  • Turn Twitter into a turd soup

  • Educated people who don’t click ads stop using Twitter

  • Save unproductive bandwidth

  • By quitting twitter I’ve gone along with Musk’s plan. Damn it.

    Musk isnt that smart.

    Besides, a lot of those big advertisers don’t mind advertising to racists/fashies/terrorists, as long as they have the plausible deniability of “Oh, we advertise on twitter, it has a vibrant user base, lets not let the unsavory types ruin it for everyone”.

    A deniability that goes away now that its been bought by a fashy white supremacist who is actively purging the site of anyone critical to fashy white supremacism.

    No one but scummy companies like MyPillow and some asshole selling “gold” trump coins (totally legal tender!*) want to advertise to the creme of that crop.

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    I’m gratified that you thought my dumb idea was smart…
    Fucking hate this man.
    Incredible. He bought Twitter just to turn it into Truth Social.
    That’s been apparent since about a month or two after the same was final. One of the very first things he did was invite Trump back
    It should have been obvious before the deal even went through. The regulator position on that was fucked, focusing on “you made an offer, can’t back out now!” instead of how bad it would be for a billionaire to take Twitter private.

    It was either that or let Musk get away with stock market manipulation. Hard to tell which is worse at this point but I personally think him losing billions of dollars of investor money will hopefully cause then to think twice about giving him money in the future. That is, if Trump loses in 2024.

    I have a growing suspicion that the goal was to intentionally delegitimize Twitter to the extent that one of the major social networks becomes an unmitigated misinformation factory - moreso than it was before. That seems like something billionaire investors might be willing to dump some serious cash into.

    2024 is going to be a bad, bad year.
    As will be every year after that. It’s all downhill from here folks.

    Pessimism literally helps nobody, it just makes people more depressed and less likely to do anything about a bad situation. Don’t forget that last election had one of the highest young voter turnouts ever recorded, and was by far a huge swing to liberal. Since then the Republican party hasn’t even been close to as organised as they were during 2016 and 2020.

    Change can and will happen. It already is, albeit slowly and with bumps along the road, just like any progression in society.

    You got through to me and changed my perspective. Ty
    Pessimism is so addictive. I’ve struggled with it a ton throughout my life.

    Pessimism hapoens vecause the fucking liberals wont let us call Nazis what they are and keep insisting that they deserve more fucking free speech than progressives do.

    Arm up, everyone, or get shoved into the boxcars.