Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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I played it for an hour and realized I still suck at counter strike
I used to be what was really good at the time 10 years ago. Going back and playing it now is soul crushing. People got so much better and I got worse… I can’t believe anyone new even keeps trying with how punishing it is now.
Still funny that valve still can’t count past 2 even though this is the 5th installment
I’m glad that they have found the workaround to call everything 2 tho
I’m still waiting for Half Life 2: Episode 2: Part 2
Half Life 2: Episode 2: Part 2: Subsection b): Paragraph (ii) will be the real shit
What’s the half life of Half Life sequels!
Between 0 and -1 I guess?
7th if you count CS online 1&2 (9th if you also include CS Neo and Nexon: Zombies/Studio but that’s pushing it even for me)
And I thought I was pushing it by including Condition Zero
Maybe Valve should zero-index their series. That’s the big brain solution.

They are very aware of the meme and will never release a third game as “3”.

Team Fortress 3 will probably just be called “forever” or have some other tagline to avoid being called 3.

Team Fortress 3 will probably just be called “forever”

It’s a nod to the time it’ll take to release

Still funny that valve still can’t count past 2

SteamOS 3, btw.

That’s version 3. Not steam Os 3
Fuckall server crashes for everyone, sad rn
Was really hoping it was not going to carry the 2 since it’s a pvp game/evolving game. Like division 2 and destiny 2 just drop the number.
Division 2 and Destiny 2 are much more sequels though than they are an updated platform, tons of content differences. Counter-Strike is much, much more iterative
I just don’t like the number is all.
it shoulda been called Counter Strike: two i agree
But this is Valve we’re talking about. Eventually they’re going to rename the company to Valve 2.
it looks a lot like the last one, not very excited
Thats kinda the point! New engine for new cool features and graphics but same core gameplay. They’ve improved a lot of things. I think the CS audience is excited for this, but they haven’t done anything over-the-top different to attract net new players
They kind of have behind the scenes. For one they eliminated the need to bind jump throw with the console, and made it a skill check instead. A lot more visual cues as well including foot step audible distance is now shown on radar. They added a lot of little things that make the game more friendly to new players that don’t need to play for years to develop a feel for certain things.
I played a few matches. It’s still the same de_dust2.
Some of the other maps got significant layout changes. Dust 2 remains the same because dust 2. If they changed the layout on that map I’m sure they would get a lot of angry competitive players.

It is the last one. It’s quite literally just an update to CS:GO.

They just updated the engine a bit, but it’s the exact same game.

It’s an entirely new engine built from the ground up.
It’s kinda a sport now. Valve has a model to stick to. Improving it beyond graphics is risky.
It’s just a graphical and engine update, it’s version 2 not a full new game. They’ll be able to make lots of small improvements over the next decades but the color gameplay hasn’t changed in 20 years and won’t change for 20 more because it doesn’t need to.
the all that does is reinforce my point
I mean, it’s a free update, you don’t have to be excited or even play it. If you don’t like it then there are plenty of other fishes in the sea as they say

it looks a lot like the last one, not very excited

I don’t think it’s much about excitement and more to converge their games on Source 2 engine. Dota2 moved years ago and it was barely a footnote for casual gamers. This time the switch is more noticeable and for the time being even a regression (which some vocal people are very mad about which I don’t get about a free game).

85GB

no thanks

It’s a 27gb download that’s 35gb after installation. Not sure where you got 85gb from.

The official system requirements page actually lists 85 GB, or at least it did yesterday, not sure if this was changed.

But even at 85 GB, it wouldn’t be particularly weird for a modern FPS title.

Minimum: OS: Windows® 10 Processor: 4 hardware CPU threads - Intel® Core™ i5 750 or higher Memory: 8 GB RAM Graphics: Video card must be 1 GB or more and should be a DirectX 11-compatible with support for Shader Model 5.0 DirectX: Version 11 Storage: 85 GB available space
It’s 33.61GB on my PC. I dunno where Valve got the 85GB requirement from

Extraction space for archives is my bet.

The space is then cleared post extraction and completed installation.

It’s a 27gb download that’s 35gb after installation. Not sure where you got 85gb from.

Maybe for temporary files during installation?

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Found my long lost bro… but only one of us is a real thing
It’s really wild that they straight up nuked CS:GO for this and it both performs worse on higher end machines (reports of stuttering when ragdolls activate or shaders load in are rampant) AND it’s missing the casual war games modes like Arms Race.

well they kinda had to nuke csgo as you can’t transfer in entories between games

the game is so fucked tho, on my 1060 I could play csgo at 1440p low at about 200fps, cs2 I’m lockynto get 100 on FSR performance

and zooming with scopes are fucked get about 300ms of stutter every time

They didn’t need to nuke it. Why not both
They probably didn’t want to split the players base
Nah, it’s mainly to transfer the Steam marketplace, I.E the thing that makes the most money for Valve out of Counter Strike.

Dude I have the same hardware and FSR somehow performs worse for me.

Though, I’m on LInux, I’ve yet to try it out on windows

I found nuking my csgo configs fixed a bit of the performance

I’m also on arch Linux, this fixed fsr for me

I have a 1070 and both performance and loading times have improved compared to CS:GO. 🤷
1070ti here 3600x didn’t notice much of a difference, I’m still hitting 130-140 easy
Intel A770 with stable mesa drivers, can get around 100-130fps mid settings at 4K in CS2, but got 200+ solid and just ran vsync on at 144Hz 4K very high settings in CSGO. Maybe it’s just the Linux build (which notably received zero public beta testing) but my friend said the Windows version was lower frames on his AMD 580 than CSGO too.
I for sure drop frames on low settings with my low-end machine.
How’s the A770 treating you in general?
Pretty well overall. Performance is pretty solid on most games I play now, VRR is fixed finally, and I don’t get graphical glitches. I bought it a month or so after it came out and it was rough in the beginning, lots of crashes and glitches.
Same. I’m fine. I’m also not very obsessed about fps. As long as it’s smooth I’m good.