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The new Moderna vaccine kicking anyone else's ass?

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The new Moderna vaccine kicking anyone else's ass? - Lemmy.world

Up until now, I’ve only gotten the Pfizer vaccines. And while I’ve reacted to them, it was never particularly bad. Light muscle aches and some fatigue were basically it. Worst was the second one - I could feel my hair follicles and eyelids with that one. But the Moderna one seems to be quite the beast. When I found out I could get the new Moderna, I was excited, since I’ve heard that mix-and-match is probably the strongest immunity you can get. And I figured it wasn’t going to be that bad when after several hours, I only had some light fatigue. But today has been awful. Consistent fever around 102.3, chills, headache, nausea, whole-body aches, and ludicrous levels of exhaustion. I’ve been utterly useless. Is this what Moderna vaccines have been like all along? I’ll take it over contracting COVID-19, definitely… but ouch. It’s hurting me plenty.

fubo Sep 27, 2023

Yep, did that this past weekend. Not a whole hell of a lot of fun. Advil helps a lot with the fever and chills.

Icarus512 Sep 27, 2023

Don’t think I had any fever today but definitely fatigued, sore, body aches, and chills last night (vaccinated yesterday + flu). Had moderna for shots 1 & 2, and Pfizer for 3 (no real side effects I can remember). Wasn’t expecting to have any side effects since they were very mild after booster 2, but definitely was wrong. Wanted to try Novavax but don’t think it’s been approved yet and didn’t want to wait any longer

kobra Sep 27, 2023

Your experience matches every shot I’ve had with Moderna. I’m planning to get Pfizer this time around, in the hopes that it goes easier on my body 🤞

bamboo Sep 27, 2023

This was my experience with the initial rounds, but I was very happy to not get COVID. My employer gave me time off for recovery just from the vaccine which was great so I just didn’t do anything for a day.

I’m still waiting for my new shot now. Seems like all the pharmacies are backed up by a week or more, but I should be getting another Moderna next week.

Encode1307 Sep 27, 2023

I think the moderna dosing is still double the pfizer dose. So I think it’s always caused a larger immune response. Ibuprofen will deal with most of those symptoms if you’re really not feeling good.

PurpleTentacle Sep 27, 2023

I believe one can’t 1:1 compare the dosage, Pfizer’s MRNA was supposed to be a little more stable and hence less of it was needed. But, yeah, Moderna’s dosage is higher.

I’ve gotten both over the years and Moderna always knocked me out harder, but never like OP. Symptoms have always been medium to strong fatigue and at most a mild headache.

I haven’t gotten the new booster yet.

rambaroo Sep 27, 2023

Moderna absolutely kicked my ass, I had the worst body aches I’ve ever experienced to the point that I was curled up in a ball on the floor until the double dose of Tylenol started kicking in.

I just got the Pfizer booster recently and had hardly any side effects at all.

Encode1307 Sep 27, 2023

It helped to remind myself that I felt like shit because my immune system was at work. It’s a sign (albeit an unwelcome one) that the vaccine is working.

rambaroo Sep 27, 2023

Yep, better than getting COVID. It only lasted about 10 hours.

Otherbarry Sep 27, 2023

Sounds about right. Haven’t gotten the updated shot yet but I’ve gotten the first Moderna shot & later the Moderna booster. Both times I kind of went through a quick and short fever/chills stage & some fatigue.

For me personally that seems to kick in around 8-12 hours after the shot so I try to get it early in the day, head to work/head home, then with any luck I sleep through most of the side effects & feel more or less okay the next day.

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

That’s what I should have done. Instead, I got it late in the day, slept, and woke up just in time for the side-effects to start ramping up. :(

vettnerk Sep 27, 2023

A coworker of mine did exactly as you. He never described his symptoms and exactly how bad they were, but he stated that overall Moderna was the worst one, but far better than covid itself.

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

I’ve been lucky not to catch COVID at all so far. I’ve got extended family who have, and it’s been an object lesson in why vaccinating is so important. With vaccines, I feel crummy for a day or two. My father-in-law is on year three of feeling crummy due to long COVID, and my brother-in-law is on year two.

BillMurray Sep 27, 2023

Is there a chance you just happen to have gotten sick coincidentally around the same time that you got the vaccine?

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

Unlikely. I mask up everywhere (especially with these new strains running rampant). Plus, I just woke up and am feeling a hell of a lot better.

morphballganon Sep 27, 2023

Each of mine has been Pfizer but the stories I’ve heard about Moderna are consistent with yours

Jordan117 Sep 27, 2023

I’ve always gotten Moderna, and yeah, it sucks for like 36 hours. Headache, fever, chills, sore arms, fatigue. It passes pretty quickly though, and it’s a hell of a lot better than getting COVID.

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

Seems to be passing for me now, so that lines up.

Jo Miran Sep 27, 2023

I’ve always gotten Moderna and just got my third (or fourth…I lost count) booster last week. This one was the first to barely bother me. I just got a little tired. The previous ones though were full beasts that knocked me out for 24 to 36 hours.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices Sep 28, 2023

Pfizer’s previous version was original+b.1, and their current is original+b4+b5.

Source: my left arm.

harmonea Sep 27, 2023

I haven't had the new vaccine yet, but the old one kicked my ass about equally as hard as the most recent covid strain's first day did. (For me, the cough didn't start until later, so the covid fever day felt completely identical to the post-vaccine day.)

RealM Sep 27, 2023

Actually the old Moderna was having such a harsh reaction on younger people, Germany changed their recommendations to not allow anyone younger than 60 to get moderna.

I also had Moderna back then once and can only confirm, it knocked me completely out for a whole day with harsh fever like symptoms, really wasn't fun.

Haven't really been vaccinated for a year now, so can't talk about the new moderna.

MxM111 Sep 27, 2023

Moderna was the easiest on me - did not feel a thing, not even a shoulder pain. I guess this is individual.

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

That’s the sense I’m getting, yeah. Some people are saying Pfizer is the one that really knocked them out and Moderna never did. Guess I’m just the reverse. Oh well, I do feel a lot better this morning at least.

BitingChaos Sep 27, 2023

The old Pfizer doses would shut me down for 3 days.

Fever, chills, body aches, fatigue.

The first shot wasn’t so bad. The second and third were insane.

I’m pretty sure I’ve had a fourth shot, but I don’t remember how I felt. I think I got covid last year, after already having the third shot, and I’ve been dealing with symptoms for over a year now (mostly muscle fatigue).

I want the new shot with the new variant mix, but I’m also afraid of how I’m going to react to it. I have too much going on at work and home right now to take half a week off for the shot.

I have a pretty crummy immune system and have always dealt with autoimmune issues, so it’s important that I get the shot, even if I react badly to it. :/

RandomGuy613 Sep 27, 2023

People still get vaccinated? Just curious, but haven’t seen or heard about covid in a while …

Valmond Sep 27, 2023

I got COVID just a month ago.

the_third Sep 27, 2023

Yep, it’s still a thing, we had two cases at our 100-ish people company recently.

idiomaddict Sep 27, 2023

Cases are up everywhere, more so than the normal end of summer way. The cases are less deadly, but they can still cause long covid, even without symptoms

Jackthelad Sep 27, 2023

Ah yes “Long Covid”, or “post-viral syndrome” as we used to call it. The chances of it happening are very slim and could happen with any cold or flu virus you catch, but let’s pretend it’s something new.

And ignore that it’s massively overblown, and led by people who think having a headache one day, two months after having Covid is evidence that they’ve got “Long Covid”.

news.sky.com/…/long-covid-risks-are-distorted-by-…

Long COVID risks are 'distorted by flawed research', study finds

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idiomaddict Sep 27, 2023

As though previous failures of the health system are a reason to continue to fail people.

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

I knew my question would summon the anti-vaccine idiot-brigade.

Itsamelemmy Sep 27, 2023

I’m not anti, I’ve had 3 doses.They sure aren’t making it easy to get this one. I’ve had an appointment canceled at Safeway, and been to Walmart twice. First time told come back next week just walk in, and then turned away and told to make an appointment online when I did. Seriously just considering saying fuck it. It shouldn’t be this fucking difficult.

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

Don’t give up! The reason that’s happening is that demand for the new doses is far outstripping predictions, so they’re running out. That’s going to taper off.

Itsamelemmy Oct 4, 2023

Managed to get phizer and the flu vax last Friday. My last 3 doses were Moderna with no major side effects, and this most recent phizer was the same. Arm ache, and maybe slight chills for a night. Thanks for encouraging me to try again. Think I was just trying to get them done too soon. Still didn’t have a choice, phizer was all they had. I don’t think there’s much difference though, and either is probably better than none.

kescusay Oct 4, 2023

Yep, definitely. Despite Moderna kicking my butt for a day or two, I’m very glad I got it. Much rather not be part of the problem.

RandomGuy613 Sep 27, 2023

Who said anything about being anti vaccine? How about you fuck off if you ain’t gonna answer?

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

It’s a really stupid question. Of course people still vaccinate. There are two new strains going around that are rapidly increasing hospitalizations.

RandomGuy613 Sep 27, 2023

Where I am from, no there hasn’t been any covid talk in a few months …

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

So? Just because no one you know is talking about it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. I’d bet if you called the local hospital and them if there’s been an uptick in COVID-19 cases, they’d wonder what rock you’ve been living under.

For the record, the strain with the largest circulation right now is EG.5, which is a descendant of Omicron (which should give you an idea of how infectious it is).

Very_Bad_Janet Sep 27, 2023

My husband just got over COVID. Two colleagues at work, and their families, also recently had COVID. My kids' have a number of cases at both of their schools.

Brkdncr Sep 27, 2023

I think it’s good if you have a strong immune system response to the vax. It means your immune system will be charged up with antibodies.

I always plan to take 1-2 days off after getting vaccinated.

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

That’s what I should have done. Oh well. At least I’m feeling a lot better this morning. C’est la vie.

naonintendois Sep 27, 2023

That was pretty much me a few days ago. I ate food that was a little hot, and I could feel it going through my insides for a little while, and it was painful. My fever was close to 103.

Papanca Sep 27, 2023

According to my records i’ve had Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Apart from a sore arm and maybe a bit tired, i thankfully had no other symptoms.

Fondots Sep 27, 2023

Haven’t gotten the new vaccine yet, but my first moderna gave me some chills, headache, and fatigue, I didn’t check my temperature but I wouldn’t have been surprised if I had a slight fever. It hit me maybe 8-12 ish hours after I got it, not too bad, but not exactly fun either, could have worked through it if I needed to but I was glad I had the day off. The real kicker for me though was I work night shift, I got it right after work in the morning, went home, went to bed, and it started hitting me a bit after I got up the next evening, and by the time I was ready to go to sleep the next morning I was feeling fine. If I’d been on a normal schedule and got the vaccine at the same time, I probably would have been going to bed at about the same time it hit me and I would have slept through all of the symptoms.

Most of my boosters have been moderna, and I haven’t had any issues with them besides a sore arm, so I think the first dose was my immune system going “hey wait, what the fuck is this? We got a code red over here” And with the boosters it pretty much just went “oh, ok, another one of these, go ahead and put it with the others, no biggie”

The one Pfizer vaccine I did get didn’t seem to make my arm quite as sore as the others. So that’s something I guess.

ryannathans Sep 27, 2023

Maybe you actually caught something while getting your vaccine

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

Don’t think so. Just slept off the worst of it and I’m feeling a lot better this morning.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer Sep 27, 2023

Happened to me. After my 2nd booster I felt really crappy for 3-4 days. Got tested at a clinic and was positive for the flu.

SiriusCybernetics Sep 27, 2023

Yes, my first vaccine was Pfizer and second was Moderna, which caused heart issues. I went to a heart specialist and was diagnosed with pericarditis from the vaccine. It took awhile for symptoms to improve (pain, shortness of breath etc.). I feel lucky though. An unusual amount of young men/fathers dropped dead in our area. Healthy guys. Needless to say I didn’t go for a third.

Jackthelad Sep 27, 2023

This was the reason I didn’t get vaccinated. I already have myocarditis, and someone I know had the same and his condition was made noticeably worse after.

I’d rather take my chances with Covid.

effward Sep 27, 2023

Good thing you're not in charge of anything..

SiriusCybernetics Sep 27, 2023

I came to the same conclusion, albeit a bit too late. I have all my regular immunizations and am no skeptic, but this one I now lump in the same category as the regular flu vaccine. Thanks but I’ll pass, but I understand others may choose for various valid reasons. This issue brings out the kooks though.

Jackthelad Sep 27, 2023

Some people have been driven insane by Covid, and if you even mention the fact you didn’t get the vaccine for perfectly sound health reasons, you’re labelled as an anti-vaxx loon.

Nobody understands nuance anymore. In any kind of debate.

Jackthelad Sep 27, 2023

Making yourself more ill with side effects from the vaccine than you would likely get if you caught Covid.

“I’d rather have it than Covid though”. Why? 🤷

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

Because I’m definitely not more ill than I would be from COVID-19, and I’m unlikely to accidentally kill anyone by spreading a vaccine to them.

Jackthelad Sep 27, 2023

How do you know that? I’ve had Covid twice and it was nothing like the symptoms you’re describing there.

None of us know how Covid would affect us. But in 99% (probably more than that) of us, it’s no worse than a cold or mild flu. Automatically thinking that you’re going to end up in hospital is silly.

effward Sep 27, 2023

Easy to get COVID twice when you take no precautions.

You are the problem.

Jackthelad Sep 27, 2023

Twice in three years is “not taking precautions”? 😂

kescusay Sep 27, 2023

Since you put so much stock in personal anecdotes, I’ve had it zero times in three years, so clearly my precautions are superior to yours, and there is zero possibility that I’ve gotten lucky in any way.