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How to Actually Clean Install Windows 11

https://lemmy.world/post/5736355

How to Actually Clean Install Windows 11 - Lemmy.world

Basically, install Windows as you normally would, but when asked for Time and Currency format, select English (World) instead of your country. Then let the installer do its thing. Eventually, you will see a window with an ice cream cone on the floor with the words “Something went wrong” and the error message “OOBEREGION.” This cryptic message means that the “out of box experience” (OOBE) didn’t launch because it didn’t know which region to launch. Click Skip, though, and Windows will install just fine. You won’t be prompted to buy Microsoft 365, you won’t be prompted to pay for a OneDrive subscription, and your Start menu won’t be cluttered with apps.

TheOneWithTheHair Sep 26, 2023

According to the article, “The only downside is that the Windows Store appears not to work out of the box.”

eee Sep 26, 2023

“The only downside is that the Windows Store appears not to work out of the box.”

This is a feature, not a bug.

naticus Sep 26, 2023

Can be a major deal breaker though for anyone using GamePass.

deweydecibel Sep 26, 2023

If you’re gonna buy into the Microsoft ecosystem with a subscription service and a Microsoft Account, you’ll be stuck with their trash. Should maybe consider what else might “break Gamepass” in the future (purely by accident of course).

Like how if you don’t want OneDrive, whoops, now your Office documents can’t autosave. Better put OneDrive back like a good consumer and here’s some ads about increasing storage, you’re welcome.

vividspecter Sep 26, 2023

Also Windows MR, potentially.

Railcar8095 Sep 26, 2023

And WSL.

glad_cat Oct 5, 2023

I don’t have the Store at work and I still installed WSL2 (from the command line IIRC).

qwertyqwertyqwerty Sep 26, 2023

I’m of the opinion that MS will eventually get this right, but it won’t be called Windows 11 by the time it does. The redesign, efforts into command-line and WSL, they are moving in a positive direction, but the ads, bloat, spyware, needs to go. If they can release Win12 or whatever its called with the simplicity of Win11, have the features of Win10 (and finally put a nail in the old interfaces from XP and before), they could have another solid performer like Windows 7.

sadreality Sep 26, 2023

Win13 gonna spy even harder tho

Captain Aggravated Sep 26, 2023

Win12 isn’t gonna run locally. OS as a service.

atzanteol Sep 26, 2023

Window Sun Ray edition…

deweydecibel Sep 26, 2023

they are moving in a positive direction, but the ads, bloat, spyware, needs to go

They’re going nowhere. They’re entrenched, they own most of the business world, they will never face serious kickback for their design decisions.

This isn’t ever going to change. The only thing they’ll do is give tools to Enterprise editions for businesses to control the instal, and only via Azure, at a price point far too high for the average user. Anything less than Enterprise will be locked down and monetized to hell and back.

sadreality Sep 26, 2023

Yeah windows 11 is laying ground work for all of this.

It seems like they have decided that plebs and OEMs paying licenses was not a good business model.

Really makes you wonder where the entire business world is heading. It seems every company starting to prefer this route.

rastilin Sep 26, 2023

They're not offsetting anything, they still charge money for the boxed copy sold in stores. This is pure profit for them.

RachelRodent Sep 26, 2023

I don’t know why gen z is being portrayed as tech illiterate everywhere on lemmy. We grew up with technology and half of us are adults already

PawjamaParty Sep 26, 2023

Growing up with technology doesn’t automatically grant you knowledge of it. Kids that grow up with iPads are capable of using iPads, but sit them in front of a computer and they’ll be lost. Being technically literate is more than just being able to install an app from the app store.

RachelRodent Sep 26, 2023

Technically true yes but that is not going to be that way for everyone gen z are also people who are capable of learning. I personally am a tech and privacy nerd and know that not everyone of my generation is as interested but I am also sick off people branding gen z as dumb children on here, hell most of us are adults already.

PawjamaParty Sep 26, 2023

Of course everybody can learn, but is anyone teaching them? I’m a millennial, I grew up with computers, but I had to learn a lot of things the hard way because it was just expected that we’d somehow become experts without anyone teaching us. We weren’t told about cybersecurity, or how to troubleshoot issues, I had to learn all those things by myself. And learning to troubleshoot and other more technical things I only learned because I’m actually interested in computers. Many of my peers aren’t, and so don’t know even the most basic things.

EngineerGaming Sep 26, 2023

Not until Gen Z gets old enough and numerous enough to start pushing workplaces to adopt Apple, and that’s an even worse direction.

I am a bit weirded out by such an association. Around me, I do see a few people with Apple tech, but they’re a minority. How would people that are able to afford these products be numerous enough to matter?

rastilin Sep 26, 2023

I think they'll go even harder, making Windows only run stuff purchased through the Windows Store so they can completely lock in the market.

maccentric Sep 26, 2023

For “security“

rastilin Sep 26, 2023

Absolutely. The security argument is used so often I'm surprised people aren't more cynical about it.

CaptainAniki Sep 26, 2023

Some of us abandoned MS in the 90s and never looked back.

I haven’t ran Windows as a primary since 98.

Railcar8095 Sep 26, 2023

Financial security no doubt

qwertyqwertyqwerty Sep 26, 2023

They already have a Windows “S” mode or whatever it’s called that does this. People will reject it, even casual users. I had one person ask me to turn off this mode to their kid could play Roblox. They just want to run apps, they don’t care how they work.

GigglyBobble Sep 26, 2023

the ads, bloat, spyware, needs to go

They just introduced them. What makes you think this isn't an integral part of the future of Windows?

fiah Sep 26, 2023

(and finally put a nail in the old interfaces from XP and before)

that’s probably not going to happen because it will break some programs

qwertyqwertyqwerty Sep 26, 2023

Honestly, there are some apps out there they need complete overhauls or to be completely replaced.

cs127 Sep 26, 2023

that is absolutely not a downside

bastion Sep 26, 2023

GamePass.

This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥Sep 27, 2023

Idgaf

bastion Oct 3, 2023

Neither do I, but it’s obviously going to be a downside for some people.

Engywook Sep 26, 2023

Article’s author didn’t fully catch the meaning of “downside”.

Toribor Sep 26, 2023

Now that I can get the Windows Terminal and WSL without the Microsoft Store it seems like this is yet another bonus.

Boldizzle Sep 26, 2023

It also talks about just setting your region again after the install to get the windows store working again. Most of the other bloat still stays away though.

Agm1015 Sep 26, 2023

I choose antartica as region, and appers to be the same

LazaroFilm Sep 26, 2023

Look for Tiny10 and Tiny11 versions.

b000urns Sep 26, 2023

What’s that?

LazaroFilm Sep 26, 2023

A barebones stripped down version of windows. Basically the smallest install possible to run windows. I use it on my Mac to virtualize windows.

Virkkunen Sep 26, 2023

Do not recommend Tiny10/11. They are modified Windows ISOs and we have no way of knowing what actually was modified and if there's anything malicious under the hood.

Besides it also completely breaks a bunch of actually useful features.

cesium Sep 26, 2023

The developer behind tiny10/11 publishing scripts on GitHub that you can use to make your own tiny windows install.

willybe Sep 26, 2023

After the install. Create admin and user accounts not tied to ms. Use the user account normally, and when you need admin you enter the second account details.

Use Sophia script to clean up all the advert apps bundled with win11.

I wish I could find a script to remove the advert features from edge for when I have to office. Mozilla Firefox is your day to day browser.

Use chocolatey.org to install ur apps. When you do updates, one command can do it all.

Check start-up scripts, and ensure there is nothing that doesn’t need to be there. Teams no, zoom also no.

Nix Sep 26, 2023

Im assuming this is the Sophia Script you’re referring to? github.com/farag2/Sophia-Script-for-Windows

GitHub - farag2/Sophia-Script-for-Windows: :zap: The most powerful PowerShell module for fine-tuning Windows

:zap: The most powerful PowerShell module for fine-tuning Windows - farag2/Sophia-Script-for-Windows

GitHub

d3Xt3r Sep 26, 2023

Check start-up scripts, and ensure there is nothing that doesn’t need to be there.

Nothing better than Autoruns for this.

Autoruns - Sysinternals

See what programs are configured to startup automatically when your system boots and you login.

manapropos Sep 26, 2023

Any reason to use chocolatey over winget?

Ænima Sep 26, 2023

::gestures broadly::

looeee Sep 26, 2023

Because you like poorly maintained hacky amateur install scripts

ichbinjasokreativ Sep 27, 2023

Such a shame that winget is no longer preinstalled in Windows 11. have to install the msix bundle first and remove msstore as source.

glad_cat Oct 5, 2023

I’m not OP but some applications are not available on Winget.

Excrubulent Sep 26, 2023

I actually managed to excise Edge from my system entirely, so pressing F1 in explorer doesn’t launch it anymore.

Dsspite some people warning that Edge was needed for some “core web functionality” it has broken nothing except the handful of places where they want to force you to launch a link in Edge. In that case nothing happens, but that’s not a big deal since I know how to use search engines to find information, which is the only purpose those features served.

It took quite a few steps but I got there. There are a few extra steps to stop it coming back in the next update but you can do it.

meseek #2982 Sep 26, 2023

Jesus Christ feels like using a treadmill!

Wispy2891 Sep 26, 2023

I like to use Winget instead of chocolatey

GigglyBobble Sep 26, 2023

Isn't it ironic how you to instructions now to install Windows with a bearable level of bloat? Kinda like installing Arch just for uninstalling/skipping instead of installing.

CaptainAniki Sep 26, 2023

Everyone keeps telling me Linux is hard to install and use and then I find crap like this and I get confused. I don’t have to worry about any of this shit with Arch.

Honytawk Sep 26, 2023

So Arch works with every hardware imaginable without issues?

CaptainAniki Sep 26, 2023

I haven’t had a single issue with anything I’ve installed Arch on in the last half decade. I use Debian on all my servers and haven’t had any issues there either. Bluetooth, wireless, display drivers with both nvidia and AMD.

jubalvoid Sep 26, 2023

In fairness, I don’t have to worry about any of this with Windows.

cesium Sep 26, 2023

The sad truth is that most people don’t care about all the bloat and adware.

Sygheil Sep 27, 2023

I do, i slipstreamed windows 11 both DISM and NTLite and guess what, unbootable! Great!

Psythik Sep 26, 2023

Does the Sophia script allow you to pick and chose what built-in to remove? Some of them are actually useful.