Manifish_DestinyStill better than windows.
I wanna use Linux, but gaming is stopping me.
Any kind of productivity is stopping me.
This dude must only know how to click on shit
Adobe Suite?
Affinity Suite?
Proton Drive?
Editing in Davinci? (free version of DaVinci Resolve on Linux cannot playback any H.264 or H.265 video, and the free and paid version cannot playback AAC audio on Linux…)
You know, anything productive?
napalminjelloI've not used any of that software, I guess I've never been productive in my life
“I dont use that, so this guy doesn’t know how to work computers”.
You guys are insufferable. Enjoy your Linux. Love seeing you guys bitch on every software launch for a Linux release lmao.
You’re the one who showed up to bitch and got clobbered with downvotes. Enjoy photo editing on windows, we all know you can’t do that on any other operating system “productively” 😂
I am not bitching about downvotes. I do not care.
Enjoy editing in Gimp and Kdenlive lmao.
Does everything I need, without having to pay Adobe every month. Enjoy your subscription!
I bought Affinity for a one time fee. Enjoy trying to get a job using gimp 😂😂😂
seitanicLove seeing you guys bitch on every software launch for a Linux release lmao.
Yeah, no. I don’t want any Windows software. Everything I use is free/open source.
Are you implying software can’t be released for Windows/Mac only, and be FOSS? 💀
Oh, I wasn't even attacking you, just making a goofy comment. I guess you're just a little sensitive?
macnielDavinci Resolve
Use Kdenlive
Adobe
I don’t use them but according to winehq it somewhat runs well.
Affinity
Well yeah… I used Designer and Publisher extensively when I still used Windows. I asked and begged them to consider a linux version but they didn’t saw the marketplace. Guess we Linux users aren’t productive enough. So instead we have to resort to Inkscape and Krita.
Proton drive
Well fuck them for not considering making a filesystem driver for every OS. Especially THE OS most associated with servers and privacy minded users.
Perhaps migrate to a more open cloud provider like Nextcloud?
Kdenlive isn’t a replacement for Davinci or Premiere, sorry.
I rely on either Affinity Designer or Adobe Illustrator to run my business. Inkscape and Krita are not capable of professional work.
I pay for Proton, so I am not going to say fuck it because they, like most companies, don’t look at Linux Desktop as a real OS. Sorry.
Inkscape and Krita are not capable of professional work.
How so?
They lack the features and tools.
Such as?
don’t look at Linux Desktop as a real OS
Linux runs like 90% of the world’s servers. You can’t even get half of Microsoft’s shitty software on AWS. Not to mention that development outside of C# (even that’s a pain in the ass to deploy) is an exercise in BDSM.
But sure buddy, whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night. I’m sure you’re making 10x more money than the rest of us as a (checks notes) photo and video editor
bob_wileyLinux having dominate market share in the server market doesn’t mean anything when it comes to the desktop market. Proton isn’t making Drive for servers, it’s a consumer product.
I don’t know what the person you replied to does for a living, but a lot of people make a shit load of money using some of the software mentioned, not that it should matter either way.
People like you give Linux users a bad name. You’re either a troll or too dogmatic to have any common sense.
You’re either a troll or too dogmatic
Well, you know, for starters I don’t pull up posts about Windows and go through the comments flinging shit like Polar did here. But sure, I’m the troll for telling the troll his way isn’t the only way.
Commercial app support has always been a weakness of the Linux desktop. That’s nothing new. The only thing really helping is Electron (for better or worse), but that isn’t ideal for media apps.
As much as I’d love to use the Gimp for all my photo needs, it’s not as good as Photoshop or Affinity Photo. I gave up even trying years ago. Can someone get the job done… sure. Can they do it faster and easier on an OS with more commercial app support, probably. That doesn’t mean Linux sucks, it just isn’t perfect for everything. This isn’t even a flaw with the OS, just its low market share and ethos have kept commercial apps away, which in turn hurts its ability to grow. It’s kind of a chicken and egg problem.
I said desktop. You literally quoted it.
Linux server and Linux desktop aren’t the same thing.
They totally are the same thing, it’s called a Linux Distribution and you run the same exact software that runs on a server. There’s not Debian Desktop and Debian Server, it’s just one distribution. It’s clear you’re just looking to be dismissive without really understanding what you’re talking about.
The distinction I am making is that most software developers don’t consider Linux Desktop a real OS, and that’s why Linsux nerds are begging for developers to release Linux versions.
So nuanced and articulate
Linux isn’t trying to compete with Windows for the desktop market. Making fun of it for failing to do that is dishonest at best. It caters to the very specific needs and wants of programmers, and it does that incredibly well. The fact that it can now run some quite high-end art and video production packages is a bonus, and if Linux is one day able to present itself as a viable alternative to Apple’s walled garden and Microsoft’s data-mining adware, so much the better.
Linux isn’t trying to compete with Windows for the desktop market. Making fun of it for failing to do that is dishonest at best.
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 IS THE YEAR OF LINUX!!!
It caters to the very specific needs and wants of programmers, and it does that incredibly well.
Too bad Linux users don’t understand this. Lemmy is full of Linux nerds acting like Linux is a viable replacement to Windows/MacOS, when it’s not for the majority of users.
The fact that it can now run some quite high-end art and video production packages is a bonus
Ya, despite the fact Davinci free cannot edit h.264 or h.265 video on Linux, or that neither the free or PAID versions can use AAC audio. Very professional.
but no one with an ounce of sense (coughgardinerbryantcough) would seriously argue that Linux will be ready for mass adoption at any point within the next ten years.
You’ve guys been saying this for decades lol.
I stand by my point that no one with an ounce of sense will seriously argue that Linux is ready for mass adoption. The extremely vocal minority that does not have an ounce of sense does not invalidate my point.
Debian doesn’t make that distinction, but Ubuntu does. And even on the distros that don’t, you’d have to be an idioit to deny that the suite of applications desktop users use and the suite of applications you would ever, and I mean ever, deploy on a server have pretty close to zero overlap.
That’s great you found a distribution that has two different images, one for desktop and and one for server. Does that mean that the desktop version of Ubuntu isn’t a “real” operating system as Polar says? Only the server distribution is a “real” operating system? That was the whole crux of the argument to begin with.
No, it’s saying that your “proof” that Linux is a viable operating system in all spaces simply because it is the primary operating system in the server space is invalid.
This is not a very “real” response of you. Your response isn’t applicable to all problem domains. Let’s just keep moving the argument to whatever imaginary boundary fits your personal opinion.
Literally what? “Linux is good on the desktop because Apache isn’t available for Windows” is a non-argument. End users don’t care that Linux can run server software, and people who own servers don’t care that Linux can run a desktop. The fact that both can use the same kernel, userspace, and package manager does not change the fact that there is a very real dichotomy. You might as well argue that MacOS is good for gaming because it can run productivity software just fine, and the latest Macs have GPUs that are (according to Apple’s inscrutable benchmarks, anyway) as good as a low-end Nvidia dGPU from two generations ago.
Take a deep breath, buddy. We’re on programminghumor
Why not? Because the tools are different?
Imagine that, that different tools have different workflows. How utterly awful.
And you are not sorry at all.
But hey you like windows, being vendor locked in, getting spied upon, having to deal with shitty decisions and bloat. That’s your prerogative. We don’t.
Are you really that dense? Different tools don’t equal different workflows. It means some things aren’t possible on kdenlive that people need to use in their professional work.
That’s like saying paint is a replacement for Photoshop. Enjoy trying to professionally edit photos with paint.
Are you really that dense? Different tools don’t equal different workflows. It means some things aren’t possible on kdenlive that people need to use in their professional work.
Yes, tools that aren’t drop-in replacement have often different workflows. thats simply a fact. It doesn’t imply that those tools have features that aren’t available in others.
That’s like saying paint is a replacement for Photoshop. Enjoy trying to professionally edit photos with paint.
your words, not mine. You can pretty much do nearly everything in krita that you can do in photoshop. Perhaps RAW support isnt there though.
But hey, you like Linux, trying to troubleshoot why your graphics card doesn’t work, begging companies to release a Linux version of software, trying to hunt around for hardware that supports your Linux distribution.
I am very happy with my AMD CPU and GPUs, thank you very much.
What’s your professional business anyway?
so what is it?
I am very happy with my AMD CPU and GPUs, thank you very much.
Lmfao. Enjoy your last gen ray tracing and garbage FSR.
so what is it?
I am not telling you, creep. When someone doesn’t want to answer personal info, stop asking. It’s sad you need to be told this.
Lmfao. Enjoy your last gen ray tracing and garbage FSR.
yawns i don’t care about overpriced ray tracing at all. I care about cost and power efficiency. Something team green can only dream about.
I am not telling you, creep. When someone doesn’t want to answer personal info, stop asking. It’s sad you need to be told this.
lol as if stating in which general branch your professional business is, is worth anything. I just wanted to know what kind of need on software you would have.
Lmao Linux users cope with the “I don’t care, I don’t even want it” excuses. Comes out so naturally when you have to give up nearly everything on Linux.
I don’t want to answer you, stop asking, creep. Get the hint.
Lmao Linux users cope with the “I don’t care, I don’t even want it” excuses. Comes out so naturally when you have to give up nearly everything on Linux.
I care about cost and power efficiency. Something team green can only dream about.
i told you my reasons.
I don’t want to answer you, stop asking, creep. Get the hint.
okay punk. have a shitty day man.
okay punk. have a shitty day man.
Class.
Yes, tools that aren’t drop-in replacement have often different workflows. thats simply a fact. It doesn’t imply that those tools have features that aren’t available in others.
You can pretty much do nearly everything in krita that you can do in photoshop. Perhaps RAW support isnt there though.
Pick a lane, dude.
I’ll take every lane.
Just because the tools aren’t one for one compatible doesnt mean they don’t have equivalent features.
Sure, Krita has a few features that Photoshop doesn’t, but no one uses those anyway.
You can’t have both.
don’t cite something I’ve never said.
What I said is: Krita can do many things that Photoshop can also do. But on other fronts, like RAW Manipulation (like non-destructive Editing) or croppin g, it may fall short. So what can you do to mitigate that? Adjust your workflow by introducing, if possible, other tools that can do those things.
LUHGThe proton drive issue will be fixed. It’s still early beta really. Shame but proton always come good.
Glad to hear that.
I don’t really do much of anything OTHER than gaming, so that wouldn’t be an issue for me. Sorry for you tho bro
PseudoSpockWhat a wasted life.
Just finished setting up IIS, boss!
Depends on the task. It is much better for ml, ai, scientific computing ans high performance computing in general, developers…
But I use libreoffice only for cover letters and cvs.
If excel is needed, Linux is a problem
PaulemeisterIs libre office calc not compatible with excel?
It is partially. But if someone uses excel professionally their requirements are pretty high. Tbf, I don’t know the details because I never use it, but calc is behind excel for professional use
Isn’t even the steam deck Linux nowadays?
It is, and there are still some games that are borked, but most are quite good.
This site is great for finding out what games work. https://www.protondb.com/
I…don’t know. I wanna say it is, but like a special proprietary version or something. I really got nothing here.
HubiIt’s just Arch Linux with the Steam UI and some extra packages pre-installed.
SatyrSackIt definitely feels like they made a lot of additional little tweaks to KDE to make it work better with the display and built-in controls.