A guy I know once told me he only believes in abortion in cases of rape. So I asked him how a woman can prove she was raped and he said “it’s obvious when a woman was raped.” And that, my friends, is why the rape “exception” isn’t an exception at all.
@OhNoSheTwitnt it's not even obvious to a well educated or a well bribed judge, so I'd like to know his empirical quantified parameters and where he draws that obvious line. Would make either a human rights revolution or a very funny video.
@I bet it boils down to "is the accusation against someone I don't like? then it's obviously rape, otherwise it obviously isn't" @OhNoSheTwitnt

@OhNoSheTwitnt

Besides, wasn't there some Republican who said women have a way to "shut that whole rape thing down"?

Todd Akin?

So what's the worry?

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@FinchHaven @OhNoSheTwitnt

It's always been a wonder to me, though I guess that by now I have come to expect it, just how much misogyny is released by the debate over abortion. But I guess misogyny and control are the actual points of it.

@SuneAuken

Misogyny and control and a fundamental ignorance of human sexuality, it would seem

Or simple indifference

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@FinchHaven

Simple indifference or the will to cause harm. So the question becomes are they psychopaths (indifference to suffering) or pathological sadists (the will to cause harm - nothing to do with consenting S/M obviously)?

@SuneAuken

Yeah, and it doesn't get discussed enough in my opinion, but for the most part these are all evangelical, quiverfull*, misogynist "Christians"

Sex is heterosexual, missionary-position, for the purposes of procreation only**

All else is abomination, and the practitioners get what they deserve, one way or another

*Google it

** Unless you're Josh Duggar, and then your adolescent sisters are fair game

@FinchHaven

Interesting that you should mention it.

As a Christian 10 years ago I would have said that I had no idea what blasphemy meant, and that the idea did not interest me.

As a Christian today I say that the attiude you describe is the thing I'm willing to call blasphemy.

Yeah, those have been 10 tough years.

@SuneAuken

I've been living with this (not as a practitioner, but as an observer) in my extended family since the 1950s

US Evangelical "Christians" have been given a completely free ride in what they're doing simply because:

"Oh!! That's their religion!! We can't criticize that!!"

and here we are...

@FinchHaven

A tangential detail that you might find interesting.

When Danish parish councils have to select a new pastor a recurrent interview question is "will you perform same-sex marriages?". 1/

@FinchHaven

The question itself is not seen as one of great importance, the attitude is mostly "sure, why not? This is not a big deal." But it has one advantage: It's a shibbolieth that weeds out the right wingers who either straigth up refuse or are so weaving in their reply as to make the dishonesty apparent. 2/

@FinchHaven

And while the parish council may not have very big feelings surrounding same-sex marriage they have loads of opinions about all the bigotry and strife introduced in the congregation if they get a right-wing pastor. And they want to avoid THAT like hellfire. 3/3

@OhNoSheTwitnt obviously all rape victims end up in the ICU
@MaybeMyMonkeys @OhNoSheTwitnt Where they are treated with utmost dignity and empathy

@OhNoSheTwitnt someone I know was raped at a party when she was passed out drunk. There were witnesses to it happening, hearing her saying "no, get off," from the other room. But because his friends were also "witnesses, and said "she wanted it," it was determined by the courts that it wasn't rape.

Thank goodness she wasn't pregnant and wouldn't have to prove rape in court.

@OhNoSheTwitnt Interesting that he claims to be against non-consensual pregnancy when it’s imposed by an individual, but is perfectly fine with it being imposed by the state.