@sjolsen This post has somehow taught me more than a semester of macroeconomics
@slothrop @sjolsen They forgot to mention VAT.
@sjolsen The pile of "shit "we're eating is the Earth. It's unsustainable. https://geoffreydeihl.substack.com/p/the-economy-we-need-to-save-ourselves
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The hardest thing to wrap my mind around when it comes to the economy is that only debt actually creates money. Someone's debt supposedly brings new money into the world.

Don't ask me how. It's all voodoo when it comes down to it.

@MyWoolyMastadon @sjolsen Your checking account balance is just a measure of the bankโ€™s debt to you. When a bank lends (eg a housing loan), it actually creates debts in both directions: the bankโ€™s debt to you is recorded as an increase in the balance of your checking account (โ€œnew moneyโ€).
@MyWoolyMastadon @sjolsen I think of it rather like "money IS debt". We can create new debt and this is expressed as "money"
@MyWoolyMastadon @sjolsen when a bank accepts to give you a credit, they write in their big book you have a debt and X money. That money doesn't come from the bank cash reserve, it's created ex nihilo. When you pay back, the bank writes you have less money. It doesn't go in the bank cash reserve.
@sjolsen And that, my friends, is why economists are full of shit.

@sjolsen - The real Economist answer is that each has derived $100 worth of enjoyment out of watching the other eat shit, to their net benefit, because they are rational actors.

Very, very rational.

@LeviKornelsen @sjolsen

The assumption, that the Economy only consists of *rational* actors is *irrational*.

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So what you are saying is that they failed to report it on their taxes?
@Woodswalked @sjolsen this is what gets me too
@Woodswalked @sjolsen it's not failing if you never try...

@Disputatore

They are the Outlaw Economistsโ€ฆ or at least scofflaw.

cc: @sjolsen

@sjolsen "Economists are mathematicians who never learned how to subtract."
@sjolsen and given the average salary of an economist, they now owe at least $24 each in income taxes for the privilege of eating shit.
@sjolsen this is why my parents said they'd help me as much as possible with college tuition... as long as I didn't study economics or philosophy
Two economists are walking in a forest when they come across a pile of shit. The... | Hacker News

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Moral of the story?
@NorCalWineLady @sjolsen don't go walking with economists. They're into some weird shit. Literally.
@sjolsen It is well known in the business that GDP is a shit (ha ha) metric. The problem is that it's an internationally defined metric, and decades of attempts have failed to get enough international agreement to shift the bureaucratic machine.
@sjolsen To be fair, anything that gets economists to eat shit is a net gain for society
@sjolsen At first I thought the second economist would find some passerby to eat his shit for 50$. ๐Ÿค‘ That would have increased the GDP by 250$.
@sjolsen Ow. That hurt. Also, very funny ๐Ÿ˜…
@sjolsen Or to put it another way, GDP is about as meaningless a figure as national debt.
@sjolsen GDP? What is that? Says a not-science-professor person. ๐Ÿ˜„
@sjolsen I both love and hate how much this makes sense lol ๐Ÿ˜†

@sjolsen Could it be that Economist 1 then pooped the first pile of shit, and that is the one Economist 2 ate?

That's circular economy

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