Rule - Lemmy.world

As it turns out, the majority of folks are just people trying to get by, and if you're nice enough to them, they'll be nice enough to you.

The problem with most terminally online people is that their social lives ended when they left school, which is when the population of arseholes is at its highest. Everybody is trying to impress everybody else, even at the cost of others.

But a lot of those same people tend to chill off as they mature into adults and become less self-centred. There are still absolutely arsehole adults, but nowhere near as many as the terminally online expect there to be.

What a fucking pant load. You’re so full of shit, it stinks.

the majority of folks are just people trying to get by, and if you’re nice enough to them, they’ll be nice enough to you.

Bullshit. The majority of people want to dominate everyone not in their immediate social circle. Go look up social dominance theory - it will tell you everything you need to know about how people really behave.

The problem with most terminally online people is that their social lives ended when they left school, which is when the population of arseholes is at its highest. Everybody is trying to impress everybody else, even at the cost of others.

But a lot of those same people tend to chill off as they mature into adults and become less self-centred. There are still absolutely arsehole adults, but nowhere near as many as the terminally online expect there to be.

And what magical fucking force forces people to “chill”?

They don’t. Because that magic doesn’t fucking exist. Only the trauma of punishment makes people stop abusing others. Without the threat of permanent injury on themselves, people will always try to permanently injure others as a means to dominate and control - at least for the sake of their social groups. That desperate need to dominate and control is what makes them human.

You are spreading self-aggrandizing lies; spreading an infection that will only cause more people to get more “uppity” and beat more innocent people to death. Stop lying about people and apologizing for their bloodlust. People are murderers, hunters for the only “game” still left - forcibly isolated human beings.

I wasted my entire life being kind to people, only to mock me for being so stupid, so gullible enough to fall for the con that they would be nice back. They beat me like they were mining for ore, driving blow after blow into my skull until it was permanently disfigured, and then they broke every bone in my limbs until they didn’t work anymore.

Don’t give me this horseshit about how people “chill out” - I did not get almost murdered over fifteen years by people who would simply magically stop being murderous because some timer ran out. No, those motherfuckers murdered as if it was a fucking religious mandate and they are the same type of assholes who tried to take over the U.S. on January 6th.

No one is ever going to acknowledge my humanity, no matter how kind I am, or what I do. I will always be seen as a “less than” because the ENTIRE human race are malignant narcissists - and there is an entire organization of psychologists and sociologists who reject the pro-human narrative and know exactly how evil people really are. Quit apologizing for rapists and murderers.

Social dominance theory - Wikipedia

If this is how you act around other people … I don’t think the problem is either people.

This is how I act in response to other people’s abuse. How will you ever learn not to abuse me if I don’t punish you myself? No one else will do it.

The fact is, it doesn’t matter how I act - you made up your mind to hate me as soon as you found out I exist and crammed me into your “other” pigeonhole. Your reactions are now completely detached from my behavior, and you’ll treat me like shit no matte how kindly I treat you, simply because you now assert I’m infinitely “less than” you. This is how you protect your fragile ego.

If this is how you act around other people … I don’t think the problem is other people.

Then you’re a fool, manipulated by malignant narcissists, and now you’re on the end of their leash, permanently their tool.

You’re an enabler of abuse. Piss off, tool.

Why are you acting like these people here replying are your direct abusers? We don’t even know you and you are accusing us of trying to murder you.

Do you not see how insane these words you are saying are?

I’m sorry your life has been hard and seemingly full of abuse, but we are not those abusers.

Why are you acting like these people here replying are your direct abusers?

Because not only is there nothing stopping them from doing the exact same thing my abusers did, those same abusers will force them to do it, or kill them if they resist. The entirety of society is a hierarchy of abuse - that’s it’s purpose, and enforced with an iron fist if necessary.

Do you not see how insane these words you are saying are?

Bullshit. It’s not “insane” - you’re just fucking ignorant and mentally lazy. You’re an enabler, pure and simple.

I’m sorry your life has been hard and seemingly full of abuse

No you’re not - as a human being, you’re not capable of being sorry for events that you ultimately benefit from. My social isolation clears the way for you - I cannot compete against you for resources because of being ostracized.

we are not those abusers.

You can’t not be those abusers, because you don’t have an alternate source from which to learn other behaviors. Your parents, and everyone of their generation were abusers too - and killed off everyone who wasn’t. No one is left alive to teach you how to not be abusive - that’s why exactly 100% of the people I grew up with abused me; the people who would have supported me are dead.

I’m just going to block you. That way we can both live in peace. Have a nice life
You’re the asshole who started lying. I should be blocking you.
Buddy, get some help. Seriously.
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Nobody here abused you and yet you still went on a 4-5 paragraph rant about how shitty they are. You’re the problem.

I don’t necessarily agree with your aggressive tone but I do agree with a lot of what you’re saying, this from someone who was treated like complete shit as a young adult, shit enough to leave me with trauma and a really bad fear of people.

I’ve seen what the worst side of people while being a soft kind and caring person. Anyone who believes what the other person said is pretty naive.

Unfortunately the aggressive tone is necessary to survive. If you give anyone an inch, they will interpret that lack of aggression as “weakness” and double-down on the assault, “going for the kill” in other words. The only way to keep the wolves at bay is to constantly lash out at their snout with something sharp; failure to do so and the pack lunges in.

And what magical fucking force forces people to “chill”?

They don’t. Because that magic doesn’t fucking exist.

I don’t say this often, but visit a Buddhist monastery.

…and figure out where all that anger is coming from.

and there is an entire organization of psychologists and sociologists who reject the pro-human narrative and know exactly how evil people really are

As a target is not set up to miss it so the nature of evil does not exist in the world.

figure out where all that anger is coming from.

I know where the anger is coming from - its coming form being treated unjustly my entire life - and knowing that everyone is willing to do anything up to committing suicide to continue to treat me unjustly, because they can’t live with themselves if they don’t. They think failure to be cruel to me proves that they are “weak” and unworthy of life.

As a target is not set up to miss it so the nature of evil does not exist in the world.

Is English not your first language? Because that’s not written correctly. The first clause does not relate to the second.

its coming from being treated unjustly my entire life

That’s not something in your control. What is in your control is whether you add to it, including by spreading bad vibes by being chronically miserable. Don’t be a slave to your past.

They think failure to be cruel to me proves that they are “weak” and unworthy of life.

If everyone, ever, looks like a narcissist to you then one of two things are true: a) You’re one yourself and are literally begging for that behaviour to be kept in check, or, b) you’re jaded beyond measure. Is there not a single person that doesn’t give you the creeps? You included, btw.

Is English not your first language? Because that’s not written correctly. The first clause does not relate to the second.

It isn’t, but yes it is written correctly. But the Epictetus translation I paraphrased it from is better, I agree:

As a mark is not set up for the sake of missing the aim, so neither does the nature of evil exist in the world.

spreading bad vibes by being chronically miserable

What the fuck is this bullshit? And what makes you think you don’t deserve the punishment?

Don’t be a slave to your past.

I’m not. I’m extrapolating the future from what I correctly learned from the past, and preparing for it.

If everyone, ever, looks like a narcissist to you then one of two things are true: a) You’re one yourself and are literally begging for that behaviour to be kept in check, or, b) you’re jaded beyond measure.

Oh, definitely B. But you’ll accuse me of being A, because you’re the narcissist. And I ABSOLUTELY do not anyone to “keep my behavior in check” - the entire point of this is to liberate my self from everyone else domination and desire to enslave me. I am willing to hacksaw people’s hands off at the wrist to keep them off of me.

Is there not a single person that doesn’t give you the creeps? You included, btw.

“Creeps?” What planet are you on? People are beating me up - that’s not “the creeps”, that’s justified fear.

As a mark is not set up for the sake of missing the aim, so neither does the nature of evil exist in the world.

Again, that doesn’t make any sense. “Evil” has nothing to do with “missing a mark”; evil is defined as the will and desire to dominate others. That nature does exist; psychology relegates it to Cluster B of the set on personality disorders.

What the fuck is this bullshit? And what makes you think you don’t deserve the punishment?

You don’t deserve the reaction you’re trying to coax out of me. You’re trying to elicit it so that you can be reinforced in your beliefs, so that you can continue to say “see, it’s true, everybody hates me, everyone is an enemy”. But no amount of flailing will make me hate you. Best I can do is tickle you into submission, sorry.

And, yes, my intent here is to dominate and my methods are manipulative. What’s the motive, though?

You don’t deserve the reaction you’re trying to coax out of me. You’re trying to elicit it so that you can be reinforced in your beliefs, so that you can continue to say “see, it’s true, everybody hates me, everyone is an enemy”.

No, I’m not. I’m trying to teach you about your own nature, so you can correct it.

What’s the motive, though?

The same motive all narcissists have - you’re trying to “prove” your “better” than I am to hide from your own insecurity. You’re trying to hide some secret shame from others - and you’re willing do anything, including kill, to do so.

You do not know anyone’s nature but your own. You cannot assume anyone’s behavior except your own. By definition, you are entirely wrong, because your entire conception is based upon assumptions about people you’ve never met and likely never will. You are definitively the narcissist in this thread, making everything about you. You need to pull the tapeworm out of your ass.

Bullshit. Humanity’s common nature is a fact of psychology.

And I don’t need to meet every “individual” of a species every member of which compulsively tries to destroy their - and everyone else’s - individuality. You bastards hate individuality - that’s why you compulsively abuse everyone who’s different than you. That’s what bigotry is - and everyone’s a bigot.

Humanity’s common nature, beyond the last few hundred years, is actually one of mutual aid and cooperation. I’d encourage you to look into the various Peoples Histories of the various parts of the world. It is increasingly clear the more data is gathered that the current system of elevating greed, avarice, selfishness etc, is a historical outlier on a history that stretches back hundreds of thousands of years of people collectively cooperating.

Humanity’s common nature, beyond the last few hundred years, is actually one of mutual aid and cooperation.

That is only true for people INSIDE their social circles.

INSIDE, jackass.

Everyone OUTSIDE is prey - that’s why they’re “outside”.

I know “the various Peoples Histories of the various parts of the world” BETTER THAN YOU DO! I actually read the books and did the homework - you’re the type of delinquent who copied off of me. I spent my life studying sociology and anthropology just to figure out why you motherfuckers hate me so much.

What life-threatening condition made you research sociology?

It is increasingly clear the more data is gathered that the current system of elevating greed, avarice, selfishness etc, is a historical outlier on a history that stretches back hundreds of thousands of years of people collectively cooperating.

What a load of horseshit. Narcissists are in complete control of the Earth and have been since before the feudal era - don’t hand me this bullshit about how effective “people collectively cooperating” are. I’ll believe “people collectively cooperating” matter when they start carving up narcissists like it’s a deli counter.

Now you’re asserting more and more to me. I’ve read plenty of books, we could go through some we’ve read if you really want to. Have you read Graeber and Wengrow’s “Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity”? How about Paulo Freire’s “Pedagogy of the Oppressed”? They’re pretty popular books, I wouldn’t be surprised if you have, but if not I’d recommend them. Do you have any recommendations for me?

Do you have any recommendations for me?

Reconsider your morality? Get some moral integrity?

Which moral philosophy do you subscribe to?

No, I’m not. I’m trying to teach you about your own nature, so you can correct it.

I know my nature thank you very much. And what do you mean with “correction”? Do you want me to be an asshole? You also don’t need to worry about me: I’m peaceful, not harmless. In fact, you can’t really be peaceful if you’re harmless, in that we agree I think.

The same motive all narcissists have - you’re trying to “prove” your “better” than I am to hide from your own insecurity. You’re trying to hide some secret shame from others - and you’re willing do anything, including kill, to do so.

That’s not a narcissistic motive. Narcissists feel shame when they, inadvertently, do something nice same as others feel shame when they inadvertently hurt. Their moral instincts are flipped and their function in society is to keep the rest on our toes. They’re the empty space directly around the mark so the mark is easier to see. Their purpose in life is to be a warning example. In that way they serve good.

Playing over fears is a thing every human is prone to, no matter the neurological makeup. It’s either a function of pride, to which the antidote is humility, or urgency/stress, to which the antidote is taking your time, avoiding snap judgements… or it’s foolhardiness. Courage, OTOH, is not playing over but actually overcoming fear, usually out of wisdom, the queen of the virtues, able to bring opposing instincts into mutually agreeable concord. That’s adaptation without the “mal-” in front.

And I don’t care about whatever shame the assholes put into you. Keep it to yourself, you deserve kindness regardless. The question is whether you’re willing to look beyond it and become receptive to kindness, or whether you carry it around as a shield because giving it up would invoke the ire of people you are, as I gather, no longer under the direct thumb of.

I know my nature thank you very much.

No you don’t. You actively try to be ignorant of it, because you don’t want to know the horrible truth.

And what do you mean with “correction”? Do you want me to be an asshole?

The correct is stopping you from being an asshole.

You also don’t need to worry about me: I’m peaceful, not harmless.

I’m not your gullible mark. I’ll worry about you as *I* see fit - not as you dictate.

In fact, you can’t really be peaceful if you’re harmless, in that we agree I think.

No we don’t - I can’t even make sense of this line.

That’s not a narcissistic motive. Narcissists feel shame when they, inadvertently, do something nice same as others feel shame when they inadvertently hurt. Their moral instincts are flipped and their function in society is to keep the rest on our toes. They’re the empty space directly around the mark so the mark is easier to see. Their purpose in life is to be a warning example. In that way they serve good.

This is directly contrary to even the wikipedia entry, much less the therapists I see. You’re just full of shit.

And I don’t care about whatever shame the assholes put into you. Keep it to yourself, you deserve kindness regardless. The question is whether you’re willing to look beyond it and become receptive to kindness, or whether you carry it around as a shield because giving it up would invoke the ire of people you are, as I gather, no longer under the direct thumb of.

I have nothing to be ashamed of. I never stopped being receptive to genuine kindness - I stopped being receptive to obvious, bald-faced lies and other bad faith behavior. I stopped being receptive to the idea that people can be genuine instead of being continuous, compulsive liars. I stopped being a sucker, and started being a skeptic - and I never took anything anyone said at face value again.

Human beings are incapable of being genuine to those they do not consider their equal. I have been branded infinitely beneath all others, a brand enforced by society itself. No one will ever interact with me in good faith - and nothing anyone can say will change my mind.

I’m not your gullible mark. I’ll worry about you as I see fit - not as you dictate.

Oh this is very interesting. I meant you do not need worry about my safety. As you seemed to be keen on “curing” me of my “naive” ways, convincing you of yours, seeing the whole world as nothing but enmity. It didn’t even occur to me that it could be read the other way around. How did you come to that interpretation?

No we don’t - I can’t even make sense of this line.

Someone who is harmless has no way to defend themselves. They will be afraid little tiny chihuahuas throwing their ire at anyone that they ever meet, considering all to be more powerful than them, that ire will be directed inside into self-hatred or outside into anger, but it’s still the same helplessness.

If you are not harmless, however, you can find safety, even in dicey situations, in your capacity to get out of them on your own terms. It’s the martial artists who is not impressed by chest thumping, and see no need to engage in that practice: If a punch flies their way they’re going to react, they can trust the back of their mind to deal with it. Any worry there might be does not need to cross the threshold of consciousness because they have achieved unconscious competence. That enables peacefulness even in a biker bar.

Human beings are incapable of being genuine to those they do not consider their equal.

Are humans fake to their pets, to their children? To their frail elders?

I have been branded infinitely beneath all others, a brand enforced by society itself.

How much do you yourself enforce that brand?

and nothing anyone can say will change my mind.

…never mind you just answered that.

How did you come to that interpretation?

To me, that’s the only interpretation that makes sense. Why the fuck would you allay my fears of your safety? To you, my fears would be you r asset you can use against me. Allaying those fears disarms you.

If you are not harmless, however, you can find safety, even in dicey situations, in your capacity to get out of them on your own terms.

Not necessarily. “Not harmless” does not guarantee “sufficiently harmful”.

Are humans fake to their pets, to their children? To their frail elders?

For this definition those beings are equal. Equal in social status, not competency.

How much do you yourself enforce that brand?

I don’t. The entire point of talking to you people is to break you of this obsession with putting down.

…never mind you just answered that.

It’s not my mind forcing you people to denigrate me; you choose, of your own free will, to do so. Even your belief that I influence that choice is your choice to allow me to influence , your choice to even believe that I can influence that choice. You can choose to not denigrate NO MATTER HOW I ACT, and that is in fact the only moral choice, but you all choose the immoral choice because it is immoral, because it is anti-social.

You choose to assert that I am less than you to dominate me, and you claim my behavior is the cause to further that domination.

To you, my fears would be you r asset you can use against me.

Now why would I do that. Humanity aside that’s strategically unsound: Fearful people are not at the full extent of their abilities. And if we are are to, what, hunt mammoths or some shit I’d rather have you at your best.

You choose to assert that I am less than you to dominate me,

I assert that your neurosis is less than you, that it diminishes you. Anyone trying to get you out of there does not do it to further their control over you – on the contrary, they want to see you fly and soar (or at the very least not get on their nerves). Those narcissists you speak of would rather reinforce it, because it is a leash they can lead you by. How do you clearly distinguish between those ends people aim for? “Everyone is out to get me” is not an answer to that question, it’s a cop-out, it’s avoidance.

Or, let me put this differently: If there was a single decent human being among the billions we are, and you might just by chance stumble across them one day… would you be able to tell that they’re the exception? Can you develop that skill? Is that a hypothetical you’re comfortable contemplating?

Now why would I do that. Humanity aside that’s strategically unsound: Fearful people are not at the full extent of their abilities. And if we are are to, what, hunt mammoths or some shit I’d rather have you at your best.

You know goddamned why; you’re not fooling me. You hate me because I prove your belief that that you’re inferior. And you don’t want me “at your best” because that results in me killing you the next time you attack me.

on the contrary, they want to see you fly and soar

That would be suicidal for them. Do you expect me to believe they’re openly suicidal?

How do you clearly distinguish between those ends people aim for?

No one is trying to “get me out of there” and anyone who’s trying to convince there is is exactly the people I need to destroy first - because they are the boldest liars.

“Everyone is out to get me” is not an answer to that question, it’s a cop-out, it’s avoidance.

That’s your strawman.

If there was a single decent human being among the billions we are, and you might just by chance stumble across them one day… would you be able to tell that they’re the exception?

It wouldn’t matter, because a single person wouldn’t make a difference. In fact, the idea of a “single person” is an oxymoron; an “individual” is just meat. Personhood comes from group membership; no “individual” is a “person” until a group recognizes them as such.

The social atom is the group, no the individual bag of meat. A human being’s worth literally comes from the group; one’s own estimate of worth is hopelessly biased and therefore perfectly invalid.

You hate me because I prove your belief that that you’re inferior.

Was that a Freudian slip?

Just for the record, no, I do not think of myself as inferior. Or superior. I generally don’t tend to think it those categories and definitely not as a generality. If there’s a shoemaker, sure, I’ll recognise their authority when it comes to the question of shoes.

And you don’t want me “at your best” because that results in me killing you the next time you attack me.

Why would I attack you? As I said in the beginning: No amount of flailing will make me hate you. Any aggression will have to be started from your side.

Was that a Freudian slip?

…no? I didn’t write it wrong.

I do not think of myself as inferior. Or superior.

Sure you don’t.

Why would I attack you? As I said in the beginning: No amount of flailing will make me hate you.

And as I have said throughout: I won’t take anything you say at face value. You have no reason to talk to me if you’re not trying to lie to me somehow.

I do not think of myself as inferior. Or superior.

Sure you don’t.

If you do not consider that possible, I suggest you suspend disbelief. Try it out for yourself.

As I already linked Epictetus:

These reasonings are unconnected: “I am richer than you, therefore I am better”; “I am more eloquent than you, therefore I am better.” The connection is rather this: “I am richer than you, therefore my property is greater than yours;” “I am more eloquent than you, therefore my style is better than yours.” But you, after all, are neither property nor style.

I wasted my entire life being kind to people

Sorry, bud - kind people don’t say that. Yes, I’ve been walked all over by assholes, and I’ve been taken advantage of more times than I can count. I’ve been bullied and abused because of my body, and I’ve been made to feel like I don’t deserve to share the same planet with some people, but I’ve also met some amazing people who accept me and love me.

The whole point of being kind is to be vulnerable, and to help people earnestly and without judgement. Why would I give a shit that some asshole got a leg up because of my effort, or felt bigger by making me feel smaller? If I help 100 jerks and one good person, at the end of the day, I helped a good person, and that makes my whole day, regardless of anything else. That’s how you find the good people in the world, and build your social circle with people who care for you.

The whole point of being kind is to be vulnerable, and to help people earnestly and without judgement. Why would I give a shit that some asshole got a leg up because of my effort, or felt bigger by making me feel smaller? If I help 100 jerks and one good person, at the end of the day, I helped a good person, and that makes my whole day, regardless of anything else. That’s how you find the good people in the world, and build your social circle with people who care for you.

You’re a gullible fool.

“Vulnerability” only teaches people they can succeed in killing you, and that you won’t defend yourself properly from those who try. This isn’t about “some asshole got a leg up because of my effort” or “felt bigger by making me feel smaller” - this is about motherfuckers who murder people for fun.

Get your head out of your as an see real life. Life is a war zone where very social group is hunting every other social group - and everyone isolated from a social group. The goals of those groups is to kill - nothing less. There are no “good people” to help - they ALL are on the hunt, and I will not accept your lies suggesting otherwise. I will not be changed by your attempt to dominate and subjugate my mind.

Sorry, bud - kind people don’t say that.

Yes they do - after they wake up and realize they were taken in for fools, haven been conned by society into enabling abusers.

Clearly you’ve given up hope, and need to reject the idea of other people people being happy, and surrounded by love in order to not feel like you made a mistake in doing so. Nobody’s trying to kill me, nor are they trying to kill you - people are pretty good at that, as you pointed out; when they actually want to, they don’t try to, they just do. I’ve gotten death threats before, and lo and behold they were just threats. Had anyone gotten a gun and actually came after me with it, I’d be dead. You would be too, if they were serious about their supposed effort to kill you.

I’m in a loving marriage, with friends and what’s left of my family after I cut out the bad parts. They all support me and want me to be happy. We hang out and help one another, and it’s been years since I even met someone who I remember treating me poorly, because once you have that support network you don’t even care about those kinds of people. You end up just seeing them for what they are instead - just normal people who never learned to interact with others; pity them. You’ve still got a good chance to find your friend group. Don’t throw that chance away by just assuming such lives don’t exist - they absolutely do.

Clearly you’ve given up hope

This is correct, but:

need to reject the idea of other people people being happy, and surrounded by love in order to not feel like you made a mistake in doing so.

People derive their happiness from torturing “other” people. That’s why they tortured me. That’s why my own parents tied me to a chair and beat me half to death with whatever didn’t leave bruise. That’s why my childhood peers beat me with whatever they could find and call me every name in the book. and that’s why no one ever did anything else. My therapists said the lack of alternate behavior - treatmentother than abuse - was the most damaging part of my trauma.

Nobody’s trying to kill me

No shit - you’re in a social group.

nor are they trying to kill you

They why was I shot three months ago, by a man who yelled in front of witnesses that he was going to kill me?

Had anyone gotten a gun and actually came after me with it, I’d be dead. You would be too, if they were serious about their supposed effort to kill you.

You grossly overestimate the competence of humankind. You also forget that maintaining social acceptance overrides even their desire to kill. They have to justify killing me to their peers before they can do it - otherwise they come off as someone who will kill anyone, a homicidal maniac. They have to build a casus belli before they murder me - that’s where I set them against their peers.

Their real desire is to dominate - killing is the consolation prize. I refuse to be someone else’s slave, so they’re driven to kill me to prevent the narcissistic collapse - to live with themselves after “failing” to enslave me.

I’m in a loving marriage, with friends and what’s left of my family

Bragging, really? You self-centered twat.

once you have that support network you don’t even care about those kinds of people.

The problem is that I can’t get that support network because you motherfuckers define your identities by who you bar from those networks. You bastards would rather kill an entire crowd than “fail” by letting me be tolerated by a group. You support your narcissistic egos by dominating other people and lying about them to others, making sure they’re permanently socially isolated.

You’ve still got a good chance to find your friend group.

No I don’t - I’m at the end of my life, and have absolutely no use for a friend group now.

Don’t throw that chance away by just assuming such lives don’t exist - they absolutely do

Prove it. Drag their bodies before me. I’m sick and tired of liars like you asserting this bullshit without proof, simply because your friends drive you to delusion and protect you from reality.

Alright, you’ve got people trying to kill you that’s terrible. You’ve definitely got it worse than I ever did, and you’re justified in thinking everyone’s out to get you. So start fresh. My mom never tried to kill me, but she did try to forcibly denounce my citizenship so I’d be utterly reliant upon her, so I moved across the country and lived for a few years in a closet of a bedroom owned by some lady I found on craigslist.

It sucked, and I had pretty much no money, but in about 2 years I managed to get back on my feet. I was even able to move back to my hometown, since I didn’t want to let my mom force me to live away from where I wanted to be. I made a new social group, and let some people from the previous group back in once I assessed whether they had my best interests in mind. I’m not saying starting fresh would be easy - it’s certainly the hardest thing I’ve ever done - but it sounds like you’ve got people actively hunting you down, so if they’re as incompetent at murder as you say they are, they should have an even harder time killing you with a thousand miles between you.

I’m not telling you about my life to brag - I’m actively encouraging you to find those same joys yourself. That’s what it looks like when someone encourages you - they tell you about how good your life can be if you regain hope.

So start fresh.

I moved across the country

Not only is there no way to “start fresh”, MOVING IS WHAT MADE PEOPLE WANT TO KILL ME IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Their murderous rage started when my parents moved from one place to some place where “I didn’t belong” and they’ve been trying to kill me ever since, because there is no place on this Earth I belong. Even if there was such a place, they’d simply destroy it to deprive me of it and dominate me.

they should have an even harder time killing you with a thousand miles between you.

They are experts at chasing me down - they are far more skilled at chasing and tracking than killing. Remember, their priority is DOMINATION - they have an entire stable of people they have enslaved, whether they are actually chained up, or kept in line through extortion. The most important thing in their lives is to keep control of those people - and the second most is to regain control once they lose one.

I’m actively encouraging you to find those same joys yourself.

And I refuse to chase down happiness, because that will only make me an addict like my abusers. They abuse because abuse is the only thing that makes them happy, now that they’re strung out on it.

That’s what it looks like when someone encourages you - they tell you about how good your life can be if you regain hope.

No, that’s what lying looks like. I will never take anything anyone tells me at face value again.

Sorry, bud. I’ve told you all I can. At this point, your life is in your hands. Not the hands of those who want to hurt you, not the hands of those who want to help you, but can’t because of your rejection of the world. Just yours. I hope you make the right choice in the end. You deserve to be loved - and you will be, if you let it in. Please at least remember that much.

your life is in your hands.

As if assholes like you would ever let that be the case. You wouldn’t be able to live with yourself if you failed that badly as to let me regain control.

your rejection of the world

*I* didn’t reject the world - you assholes rejected me. And this gaslighting bullshit shows how much of a narcissist you are - it’s pure DARVO - Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim and Offender.

I spent my life bending over backwards, trying to convince you people to stop hating me, and the harder I fought, the harder you resisted. That’s not the behavior of a species who ever had any intention of acknowledged my equality - that is the behavior of a species that defines it identity by who they dominate.

I hope you make the right choice in the end.

I have made the right choice - I have chosen to be moral, instead of chasing the happiness dragon and abusing innocent people - which is the choice you all made.

if you let it in

How stupid do you think I am?

There is only one thing to be “let in” - the people who want to enslave me. My entire life is dedicated to crippling them, making sure they enslave no one. And I will not rest until every narcissist is quadriplegic or worse.

You is batshit crazy. I don’t want to dominate you but I definitely pity you. I wish I could travel back in time and just set up traps to trip and pants everyone who was ever unkind to you. I can’t do that though, but I hope you get it all figured out one day.

You need to allow positive influences into your life. Hell, some decent negative influences might serve you better than the version of reality you’ve made for yourself here.

And if everyone is so evil and hellbent on dominating you, why do feel the need to interact with them on social media? It’s like you can’t commit to the isolation, which is a good thing because maybe at some point something positive will come your way.

I don’t know man. I’m not dealing with the madness that you are so I know there’s probably nothing I can say to help you.

I hope you can manage to help yourself some day though. Your abusers poisoned your brain, and then you’ve continued to apply that poison up to the place you’re in now.

I hope you get better. I really do.

Take care fellow human.

You is batshit crazy.

Insults. Nice start.

I don’t want to dominate you

Bullshit.

I definitely pity you

More bullshit. What makes you think I’m so gullible? What do I have to do to prove to you that I am skeptical beyond your ability to fool?

You need to allow positive influences into your life.

I’m not the one stopping them. You are.

The most important faculty I value in others is the inability to be manipulated by another human being. The entire point of what I do is to weed out people who can be manipulated. I am only interested in people who defy my resistance and treat me well regardless of my initial resistance. If you can’t manage that, then you won’t be able to resist becoming a manipulator’s puppet - which is the only way such an abuser can succeed in killing me. If you cannot resist manipulation, I don’t think you’re worth the oxygen you breathe - you’re just an extension of the person manipulating you.

And if everyone is so evil and hellbent on dominating you, why do feel the need to interact with them on social media?

I have to stop them on every front - including debunking the lies they tell others to recruit them to join their “war” against me.

It’s like you can’t commit to the isolation

I don’t want to be isolated - you motherfuckers ostracize me to dominate me.

there’s probably nothing I can say to help you.

No shit - you have to do things, not say things. Of course you’ll fucking fail if you simply say things. But now it’s too late to do things, too.

Had you people done things during my childhood to help, you would have succeeded. But you didn’t want to actually succeed - you failed intentionally, because you wanted me broken, but also wanted the credit for trying to help. It’s all disingenuous, performative bullshit.

you’ve continued to apply that poison up to the place you’re in now.

Fuck you, narcissist. This is pure DARVO - Deny accuse, reverse victim and offender. Quit your bullshit gaslighting.

Oh so now I’m directly involved in your misery? haha

Me, who spends all of my time alone playing video games lol.

Ok bud. You try to have a nice life. Not gonna happen as long as you think you’re the center of the universe and every person on the planet is out to get you.

You keep fighting your lonely little war and the rest of us are just gonna keep on living.

I never claimed to be “the center of the universe” - that’s a straw man you added. All I’m saying is that I’m the victim of bigotry, the same as every other victim of bigotry. I’m merely an asteroid, one of millions, orbiting in that universe. You need to single me out to justify abusing me, but not them.
This is literally by definition delusions of grandeur.
Bullshit. What makes you think this?
I don’t believe you.
Like… call the police idfk. This violence and abuse is foreign to me, its not most people’s experiences and you’re in a deeply dangerous situation. You get away from those people, and actually the majority of people are great.

call the police

These are the fucking police. What makes you think the police aren’t just as bigoted as everyone else? Have you seen police in the U.S.?

You get away from those people, and actually the majority of people are great.

  • there is no “away”

  • the propaganda that “the majority of people are great” is exactly the lie I’m trying to combat.

  • No one is ever going to acknowledge my humanity

    What does that look like to you? People are talking to you right now. I know that no one has said “you are a person” but what specifically do you want?

    Unless you were literally raised by wolves this is some self aggrandizing incel bullshit.

    Coming up with an theory of the world that confirms that you are right and everyone else is terrible is lazy. I don’t think you’ve ever actually cared about anyone but yourself.

    People are talking to you right now

    You’re talking at me, lying to me and trying to dictate reality to me. You don’t respect me an an equal person - you think of me as an infinite “less than” that you need to dominate with your lies.

    Unless you were literally raised by wolves this is some self aggrandizing incel bullshit.

    I was raised by some of the most abusive people on the planet - enough to be jailed today - and surrounded exclusively by abusive peers.

    I don’t think you’ve ever actually cared about anyone but yourself.

    I did care, but you assholes taught me that caring about people who wanted me dead was a suicide pact. No one ever cared about me - not my parents, not my childhood peers, no school faculty. You motherfuckers demonstrated over fifteen years that my caring would be actively mocked as “stupid” and “retarded” and that I would be punished until I was capable of physically breaking my punishers. You all did that - not me. You all made sure no one would ever care about me, even going so far as to kill yourselves to guarantee it. You are quasi-religious zealots, dedicate to the cause of hate.

    I was raised by some of the most abusive people on the planet - enough to be jailed today - and surrounded exclusively by abusive peers.

    I’m sorry. Have you considered that they are perhaps not representative of the whole of humanity?

    Humanity compulsively mirrors the behavior of other people, in order to be accepted by their peers. They have neurons dedicated to this mirroring. Furthermore, people compulsively fight and kill anyone who isn’t exactly like them - which is why my life is in danger, and why there are genocides.

    This results in humanity constantly working to be exactly like one another - both to be accepted, and to avoid being killed. People who fail to do so do not survive, leaving only those who are almost exactly like one another.

    Not to mention that asserting that people aren’t equal is simply bigotry. The only people who don’t think any person is representative of the whole of humanity are white supremacists.

    This person did NOT go outside today
    No shit - assholes like you would compulsively murder me.