As it turns out, the majority of folks are just people trying to get by, and if you're nice enough to them, they'll be nice enough to you.

The problem with most terminally online people is that their social lives ended when they left school, which is when the population of arseholes is at its highest. Everybody is trying to impress everybody else, even at the cost of others.

But a lot of those same people tend to chill off as they mature into adults and become less self-centred. There are still absolutely arsehole adults, but nowhere near as many as the terminally online expect there to be.

I’ve observed this after I got into a college!

What I observed was people willing to throw someone off a balcony simply because he set the curve. People are either murderers, or murderer-enablers.

When people start punishing abusers to the point where it stats looking like a holocaust, maybe then they can be redeemed. Until the abusers are traumatized into submission, there will be no justice.

Dude, see a therapist or something man.
I’ve seen multiple therapists - but therapizing me doesn’t stop other people from abusing me. Getting people to stop is the only goal, the only way I can survive.
I spy with my little eye: A common denominator! You!

There’s more than one common denominator. You forgot at least human nature.

One person can only do so much; if the rest of society refuses to act in good faith out of malignant narcissism, what do you expect me to do?

Bro really took a comment by a guy named Willie Wanker 69 seriously

The last person I failed to take seriously stuck a bowie knife in my gut; I lost a yard of intestine to that.

I don’t give people an inch - especially after that.

I don’t believe you.

Of course not - you need to protect your narcissistic world view.

I promise you I don’t give people an inch - and that’s all that matters. Disbelieve the rest if you want.

If the people around you are really that bad, leave that place and lay low. Has your dominance thing actually improved the situation, or has it brought more conflict?

Moving is what started this whole mess; moving made me an “invader” that “didn’t belong” to where he was moved to. That’s why people are wiling to kill me to get rid of me.

I am laying low, but I’ve been in the same spot longer than anyone else around here - it’s the only reason I’m still alive today.

And it’s not “my” “dominance thing” - it’s part of human nature and it’s the source of the conflict. People demand that I grovel to them, be perfectly obedient to them, and I refuse.

I really love the reddit level fake stories and gaslighting!

This platform has started to shape into a drop in replacement for normies!

Your belief that this story is fake exposes your own failure of character.

Yes, I know

You got anything new I haven’t heard?

Prove anything you’ve said. Share pictures of your several life threatening wounds. Share screenshots of your innumerable acts of kindness that were met with violence. Provide evidence of any of your unbelievable claims or GTFO

The fact that you find my perfectly reasonable claims “unbelievable” is a reflection of your character, not any part of me.

I’m not going to doxx myself to make it easier for you to hunt me down and torture me. Go fuck yourself.

My man here down to get tortured it seems
Punishment probably isn’t the best way to improve things. Even under your view of things, it should be clear that punishment does more to make the punisher feel good than actually solve problems.

It’s the only way to improve things. Things cannot improve until you stop people from making it worse - and the only way people will stop making things worse is if they’re too traumatized to act.

Things cannot get better as long as you let people have free will - their free agency will always drive them to worsen things for their own benefit. The power of free will corrupts them.

Sounds awfully fascist
You people have been exercising fascistic behavior towards me since I was a child. Who are you to complain about receiving your own medicine?
I don’t know you, why should I care enough about you to have “fascistic behaviour” towards you?
“You get what you fucking deserve!”
I sympathize with your pain but also holy fuck I hope you never get your way. I’ve seen what happens when people who think like you get power, they’re brutally abusive.
You need not worry about that - people will nuke the plane before they let me have any power. This is the extent of their zealotry.
Nuking a place that would give you power seems… acceptable.
Reported for advocation of violence against a user.
I read “Reported for AVOCADO of violence against a user” and I lolled. Then I reread and I lolled even harder

Believe it or not, most people will stop doing things if they are convinced that it isn’t in their self interest. The idea that trauma is effective at getting people to stop doing something is neither accurate or acceptable. Trauma could easily make some people lash out and cause even more damage. If there’s something we shouldn’t tolerate, it’s people who want to inflict unnecessary and unproductive harm on other people. It probably didn’t make you less of a threat.

You need help, and not just therapy. You would benefit from real life friends and positive interactions with people who treat you as an equal. Residential treatment might be a good idea if you haven’t done it before. Treatment will only work if you work with it. It’s assistance, not having the problem solved for you. You need to do some of the lifting.

You have my attention. A charged response like that deserves a moment of consideration at the Very least.

What experience or experiences brought you to this opinion?

i speak having come from a broken home, destroyed by alcohol. unwanted by my mother and never set eyes on my dad, abused physically and emotionally by said mother as she took her failures out on me…what i mean by that, is…I’ve been in the dark places and I still frequent dark thoughts. i was robbed of justice in a world that owes me nothing…I’ve felt my share of rage and misplaced entitlement. So when i ask you, what’s up? please do not think i am being dismissive nor combative. i genuinely would like to hear about ‘it’

What a fucking pant load. You’re so full of shit, it stinks.

the majority of folks are just people trying to get by, and if you’re nice enough to them, they’ll be nice enough to you.

Bullshit. The majority of people want to dominate everyone not in their immediate social circle. Go look up social dominance theory - it will tell you everything you need to know about how people really behave.

The problem with most terminally online people is that their social lives ended when they left school, which is when the population of arseholes is at its highest. Everybody is trying to impress everybody else, even at the cost of others.

But a lot of those same people tend to chill off as they mature into adults and become less self-centred. There are still absolutely arsehole adults, but nowhere near as many as the terminally online expect there to be.

And what magical fucking force forces people to “chill”?

They don’t. Because that magic doesn’t fucking exist. Only the trauma of punishment makes people stop abusing others. Without the threat of permanent injury on themselves, people will always try to permanently injure others as a means to dominate and control - at least for the sake of their social groups. That desperate need to dominate and control is what makes them human.

You are spreading self-aggrandizing lies; spreading an infection that will only cause more people to get more “uppity” and beat more innocent people to death. Stop lying about people and apologizing for their bloodlust. People are murderers, hunters for the only “game” still left - forcibly isolated human beings.

I wasted my entire life being kind to people, only to mock me for being so stupid, so gullible enough to fall for the con that they would be nice back. They beat me like they were mining for ore, driving blow after blow into my skull until it was permanently disfigured, and then they broke every bone in my limbs until they didn’t work anymore.

Don’t give me this horseshit about how people “chill out” - I did not get almost murdered over fifteen years by people who would simply magically stop being murderous because some timer ran out. No, those motherfuckers murdered as if it was a fucking religious mandate and they are the same type of assholes who tried to take over the U.S. on January 6th.

No one is ever going to acknowledge my humanity, no matter how kind I am, or what I do. I will always be seen as a “less than” because the ENTIRE human race are malignant narcissists - and there is an entire organization of psychologists and sociologists who reject the pro-human narrative and know exactly how evil people really are. Quit apologizing for rapists and murderers.

Social dominance theory - Wikipedia

If this is how you act around other people … I don’t think the problem is either people.

This is how I act in response to other people’s abuse. How will you ever learn not to abuse me if I don’t punish you myself? No one else will do it.

The fact is, it doesn’t matter how I act - you made up your mind to hate me as soon as you found out I exist and crammed me into your “other” pigeonhole. Your reactions are now completely detached from my behavior, and you’ll treat me like shit no matte how kindly I treat you, simply because you now assert I’m infinitely “less than” you. This is how you protect your fragile ego.

If this is how you act around other people … I don’t think the problem is other people.

Then you’re a fool, manipulated by malignant narcissists, and now you’re on the end of their leash, permanently their tool.

You’re an enabler of abuse. Piss off, tool.

Why are you acting like these people here replying are your direct abusers? We don’t even know you and you are accusing us of trying to murder you.

Do you not see how insane these words you are saying are?

I’m sorry your life has been hard and seemingly full of abuse, but we are not those abusers.

Why are you acting like these people here replying are your direct abusers?

Because not only is there nothing stopping them from doing the exact same thing my abusers did, those same abusers will force them to do it, or kill them if they resist. The entirety of society is a hierarchy of abuse - that’s it’s purpose, and enforced with an iron fist if necessary.

Do you not see how insane these words you are saying are?

Bullshit. It’s not “insane” - you’re just fucking ignorant and mentally lazy. You’re an enabler, pure and simple.

I’m sorry your life has been hard and seemingly full of abuse

No you’re not - as a human being, you’re not capable of being sorry for events that you ultimately benefit from. My social isolation clears the way for you - I cannot compete against you for resources because of being ostracized.

we are not those abusers.

You can’t not be those abusers, because you don’t have an alternate source from which to learn other behaviors. Your parents, and everyone of their generation were abusers too - and killed off everyone who wasn’t. No one is left alive to teach you how to not be abusive - that’s why exactly 100% of the people I grew up with abused me; the people who would have supported me are dead.

I’m just going to block you. That way we can both live in peace. Have a nice life
You’re the asshole who started lying. I should be blocking you.
Buddy, get some help. Seriously.
Here, I think you’re lost 4chan is this way ----> www.4chan.net
Nobody here abused you and yet you still went on a 4-5 paragraph rant about how shitty they are. You’re the problem.

I don’t necessarily agree with your aggressive tone but I do agree with a lot of what you’re saying, this from someone who was treated like complete shit as a young adult, shit enough to leave me with trauma and a really bad fear of people.

I’ve seen what the worst side of people while being a soft kind and caring person. Anyone who believes what the other person said is pretty naive.

Unfortunately the aggressive tone is necessary to survive. If you give anyone an inch, they will interpret that lack of aggression as “weakness” and double-down on the assault, “going for the kill” in other words. The only way to keep the wolves at bay is to constantly lash out at their snout with something sharp; failure to do so and the pack lunges in.

And what magical fucking force forces people to “chill”?

They don’t. Because that magic doesn’t fucking exist.

I don’t say this often, but visit a Buddhist monastery.

…and figure out where all that anger is coming from.

and there is an entire organization of psychologists and sociologists who reject the pro-human narrative and know exactly how evil people really are

As a target is not set up to miss it so the nature of evil does not exist in the world.

figure out where all that anger is coming from.

I know where the anger is coming from - its coming form being treated unjustly my entire life - and knowing that everyone is willing to do anything up to committing suicide to continue to treat me unjustly, because they can’t live with themselves if they don’t. They think failure to be cruel to me proves that they are “weak” and unworthy of life.

As a target is not set up to miss it so the nature of evil does not exist in the world.

Is English not your first language? Because that’s not written correctly. The first clause does not relate to the second.

its coming from being treated unjustly my entire life

That’s not something in your control. What is in your control is whether you add to it, including by spreading bad vibes by being chronically miserable. Don’t be a slave to your past.

They think failure to be cruel to me proves that they are “weak” and unworthy of life.

If everyone, ever, looks like a narcissist to you then one of two things are true: a) You’re one yourself and are literally begging for that behaviour to be kept in check, or, b) you’re jaded beyond measure. Is there not a single person that doesn’t give you the creeps? You included, btw.

Is English not your first language? Because that’s not written correctly. The first clause does not relate to the second.

It isn’t, but yes it is written correctly. But the Epictetus translation I paraphrased it from is better, I agree:

As a mark is not set up for the sake of missing the aim, so neither does the nature of evil exist in the world.

spreading bad vibes by being chronically miserable

What the fuck is this bullshit? And what makes you think you don’t deserve the punishment?

Don’t be a slave to your past.

I’m not. I’m extrapolating the future from what I correctly learned from the past, and preparing for it.

If everyone, ever, looks like a narcissist to you then one of two things are true: a) You’re one yourself and are literally begging for that behaviour to be kept in check, or, b) you’re jaded beyond measure.

Oh, definitely B. But you’ll accuse me of being A, because you’re the narcissist. And I ABSOLUTELY do not anyone to “keep my behavior in check” - the entire point of this is to liberate my self from everyone else domination and desire to enslave me. I am willing to hacksaw people’s hands off at the wrist to keep them off of me.

Is there not a single person that doesn’t give you the creeps? You included, btw.

“Creeps?” What planet are you on? People are beating me up - that’s not “the creeps”, that’s justified fear.

As a mark is not set up for the sake of missing the aim, so neither does the nature of evil exist in the world.

Again, that doesn’t make any sense. “Evil” has nothing to do with “missing a mark”; evil is defined as the will and desire to dominate others. That nature does exist; psychology relegates it to Cluster B of the set on personality disorders.

What the fuck is this bullshit? And what makes you think you don’t deserve the punishment?

You don’t deserve the reaction you’re trying to coax out of me. You’re trying to elicit it so that you can be reinforced in your beliefs, so that you can continue to say “see, it’s true, everybody hates me, everyone is an enemy”. But no amount of flailing will make me hate you. Best I can do is tickle you into submission, sorry.

And, yes, my intent here is to dominate and my methods are manipulative. What’s the motive, though?

You don’t deserve the reaction you’re trying to coax out of me. You’re trying to elicit it so that you can be reinforced in your beliefs, so that you can continue to say “see, it’s true, everybody hates me, everyone is an enemy”.

No, I’m not. I’m trying to teach you about your own nature, so you can correct it.

What’s the motive, though?

The same motive all narcissists have - you’re trying to “prove” your “better” than I am to hide from your own insecurity. You’re trying to hide some secret shame from others - and you’re willing do anything, including kill, to do so.

You do not know anyone’s nature but your own. You cannot assume anyone’s behavior except your own. By definition, you are entirely wrong, because your entire conception is based upon assumptions about people you’ve never met and likely never will. You are definitively the narcissist in this thread, making everything about you. You need to pull the tapeworm out of your ass.

Bullshit. Humanity’s common nature is a fact of psychology.

And I don’t need to meet every “individual” of a species every member of which compulsively tries to destroy their - and everyone else’s - individuality. You bastards hate individuality - that’s why you compulsively abuse everyone who’s different than you. That’s what bigotry is - and everyone’s a bigot.

Humanity’s common nature, beyond the last few hundred years, is actually one of mutual aid and cooperation. I’d encourage you to look into the various Peoples Histories of the various parts of the world. It is increasingly clear the more data is gathered that the current system of elevating greed, avarice, selfishness etc, is a historical outlier on a history that stretches back hundreds of thousands of years of people collectively cooperating.

Humanity’s common nature, beyond the last few hundred years, is actually one of mutual aid and cooperation.

That is only true for people INSIDE their social circles.

INSIDE, jackass.

Everyone OUTSIDE is prey - that’s why they’re “outside”.

I know “the various Peoples Histories of the various parts of the world” BETTER THAN YOU DO! I actually read the books and did the homework - you’re the type of delinquent who copied off of me. I spent my life studying sociology and anthropology just to figure out why you motherfuckers hate me so much.

What life-threatening condition made you research sociology?

It is increasingly clear the more data is gathered that the current system of elevating greed, avarice, selfishness etc, is a historical outlier on a history that stretches back hundreds of thousands of years of people collectively cooperating.

What a load of horseshit. Narcissists are in complete control of the Earth and have been since before the feudal era - don’t hand me this bullshit about how effective “people collectively cooperating” are. I’ll believe “people collectively cooperating” matter when they start carving up narcissists like it’s a deli counter.

Now you’re asserting more and more to me. I’ve read plenty of books, we could go through some we’ve read if you really want to. Have you read Graeber and Wengrow’s “Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity”? How about Paulo Freire’s “Pedagogy of the Oppressed”? They’re pretty popular books, I wouldn’t be surprised if you have, but if not I’d recommend them. Do you have any recommendations for me?

Do you have any recommendations for me?

Reconsider your morality? Get some moral integrity?

Which moral philosophy do you subscribe to?