Child poverty in the United States just more than doubled. You can thank Joe Manchin.

https://lemmy.one/post/3816360

Child poverty in the United States just more than doubled. You can thank Joe Manchin. - Lemmy.one

The United States’ poverty rate experienced its largest one-year jump on record last year, with the rate among children more than doubling from 2021’s historic low of 5.2 percent to 12.4 percent according to new numbers from the US Census Bureau out today. They’re the latest data to reflect the devastating effects following the expiration of nearly all pandemic-era relief programs. That includes the end of Medicaid rules that protected recipients from getting kicked off because of administrative errors, an end to rental assistance policies, and the restart of student loan payments. These policies might seem like a distant memory at this point. But they’re worth recalling with the arrival of every new report. Each demonstrates what happens when politicians long hostile to caregivers, universal health care, and the welfare state, for a brief moment, acted to create powerful, federally-backed safety net programs aimed at helping everyday Americans. One of the most effective programs to emerge was the expansion of the child tax credit, which provided families monthly checks of up to $300 per child and broadened eligibility rules for qualifying families. In turn, child poverty rates plummeted; the extra income allowed caregivers to quit grueling second and third jobs; parents were able to buy their kids decent clothes and help stop taunting at school. The Census Bureau previously reported that food insecurity dropped dramatically after just the first extended payment, from 10.7 million households reporting they didn’t have enough food to 7.4 million. But as the pandemic receded, Republicans with the help of West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, who in private remarks reportedly warned that families were using the extra income to buy drugs, appeared to remember the country’s longstanding pre-pandemic hostility. Their opposition ultimately tanked President Biden’s agenda, and along with it, the brief life of the expanded child tax credit. That’s something worth remembering today as the predictable crowd is likely to cry about Democratic-engineered inflation.

How about we tar and feather him instead of thanking him?
But what about mah civility and norms?!?!
it’s strange how ‘doubling child poverty’ is never on those big lists that redditors post whenever someone asks what joe biden’s done
Read the article you blithering idiot. He is just another Conservative who screwed you over.
It's strange how conservatives never remember breaking government systems when they complain that they don't work.
Wow…your comment is so dumb I was literally left speeches for a while
Because of it’s truth?
Most definetly not lol. Because 1. You completely ignored the article and its main point 2. You showed how little you followed/understood of what happened in US politics for the past 3 years and 3. You keep doubling down in your own ignorance, like a proper fool is has no idea of what is going on and yet is dead convinced of his own…let’s call it “reasons”
If Joe Biden can be given credit for the actions of legislators, surely he must also take the blame.
Not that I’m entirely disagree with you, but how do you get back in line 2 rogues assholes like Manchin and Sinema? West Virginia is extremely conservative and risking a seat can be quite dangerous when you are trying to govern against literal fascists

By not conrinuing to support and fund them.

By doing literally anything.

Still waiting on an actual example.

You like federal judges that don’t side with fascists? You need Senate majority. You like the infrastructure bill? You need the Senate. You like the latest scotus judge? Senate.

You absolutely DON’T have to support him (I fucking hate him too to be clear) but until there’s a way to get another Democratic senator from another state…that’s all the options

You like the latest scotus judge? Senate.

Joe Manchin has openly said he will not vote for a Biden nominated SCOTUS candidate. What’s left? What does he contribute to the Democratic party?

What’s left? All my other points you ignored, including the $55 billion dollars infrastructure plan which will also strengthen the IRS to go after tax evasions by those who have a lot of money

All my other points you ignored

Because they’re nonsense dude. The senate majority only matters if the party in the senate actually votes as a unit and they don’t.

including the $55 billion dollars infrastructure plan

Not only would it have passed without his vote, he was the reason/excuse for the infrastructure bill to be watered down as much as it was.

maybe they should dral with Manchin the way they deal with the socdems: by funding their primary opponents.

Speaking as a non-american, the only way to avoid burgerlands nosedive into fascism would take so much more work and would definitely involve losing the senate. To me, you have to completely remake the Supreme Court and senate, and part of that is to always attack them and their legitimacy. Every democratic spokesperson should be bring up how corrupt and unaccountable these institutions are

Like, open up criminal cases against Clarence Thomas and Alito over their corruption. Same with manchin. Every one of these ghouls have done criminal acts. Even if you don’t win the court cases (and you won’t), you’ve dragged these peoples names into the mud and will help expose the flaws in both Congress and the courts. Get a majority of people mad enough that they shut down the country through strikes and demonstrations and you’ll suddenly find the remaining judges and congresspeople a lot more amenable.

Now, you’ll have thought up a ton of reasons why this won’t work. So have I, and the major reason to me is that most of the democrats are the same kind of garbage as the republicans, along with Americans being incredibly docile except when they’re murdering each other plus a million other reasons. So fuck both parties, vote or don’t, I don’t really care, but don’t expect me to be impressed by joe Biden

Ok here’s some actual examples.

Take him off all committees stop giving him any money or support for relecrions and start closing military bases in his state.

Withdraw any party support from them, kick them from the party, and fund their opposition. The Democratic party can absolutely do this when they need to try and stamp out anyone to the left of the blue dogs.

West Virginia is extremely conservative and risking a seat can be quite dangerous when you are trying to govern against literal fascists

Before Shelley Morito got elected in 2015, the last time West Virginia had a republican senator was during the eisenhower administration. And if Manchin votes as a republican anyway why does it matter?

West Virginia has gotten more and more conservative over time. It used to be more of a blue state. In 2020, Trump got double the votes that Biden did. Manchin is going to struggle to hold the seat if he runs again, let alone some left wing upstart without name recognition who is poorly matched to the state’s politics.
Again, if Joe Manchin is functionally a republican why does it matter if he loses? And Joe Manchin is unpopular in his own state, he’s not a person who is uniquely equipped to hold the state. Like you’re just gaslighting yourself into supporting a Republican.
Joe Manchin is conservative for a Democrat, but he is no Republican. Any replacement will be a right wing Republican that the Democratic Party has no influence over. Manchin highlights his independence from either party. A replacement would highlight their mindless opposition to any proposer by the left or Democrats.

but he is no Republican

What functional difference is there between Joe Manchin and a republican

West Virginia has gotten more and more conservative over time. It used to be more of a blue state.

WV was a blue state because unions. When Dems started attacking the largest union industries in the state, and started emphasizing identity politics over labor that was pretty much it.

actually I disagree with the existence of stupidpol and patsoc types
what the hell is the point of holding a seat if the guy holding it does whatever he wants.
Why are Democrats giving money to “Democrats” who won’t support their agenda? Why did the DNC support Manchin and Sinema financially, but actually give money to Republicans over Progressive Democrats? You can’t be against Fascists, but still financially support them over Social Democrats…An unemotional look at the DNC’s behaviour shows that even if you got 70 Senators, the things we want would not get done. The Democrats are closer to the Republicans than any Socialist/ Communist/Anarchist in here…
You could expel them from the party and strip their funding apparatuses

Did Biden fight tooth and nail to push through his agenda? Nope.

So it’s completely reasonable to say that Biden allowed childhood poverty to double under his watch.

See my points above lol they seem to fit you as well.

With the “majority” down to literally 2 people, enlighten me and everyone else: how should have things gone according to you? How would YOU have fought tooth and nail while not risking to lose any practical way to govern? I’ll wait

make those 2 people vote the way you want?
LMAO How?? You force them with a gun? Lol
you bring them into your office and say hey, you vote the way I want to or I’m going to destroy your fuckin life. direct the IRS to find any discrepancy in their taxes, direct the DOJ to find any thing they’ve ever done wrong in their life, charge them with one of those bullshit charges like wire fraud. these people are absolute cowards, they don’t care about anything other than protecting their wealth - make that slightly inconvenient for them and they’ll buckle. or honestly just have the CIA kill them, who cares? the CIA is off killing foreign politicians anyway, may as well kill some of our own that are holding things up.

I see. So as long as it fits you, you’re OK with literal murder and with the president turning into a full blown dictator. I’m sure nothing could go wrong with that…

I’m done with you and your sad attempts at discussing.

You asked and he answered, sometimes AuThoRiTaRiAnIsM is how you actually get things done.
Not in democracies it’s not. And I’m glad I live in one, so shitty people like you cannot kill others simply because they don’t do what YOU want them to do
Enjoy your democratic child poverty 👍

Oh fuck off 🤣 what, now you got your feelings hurt after speaking in favor of authoritarianism? LMAO

I absolutely hate this and them too but you and some other users here think thathe you can just tough guy your way out of complex political cooperation.

Don’t act like I’m in favor of child poverty, because I’m not. I’m simply not as delusional as you are

lol, I bet you think killing Nazis is bad too and there’s some kind of rule that states you have to have reactionaries in your politics instead of just getting rid of them.

Again you really like pretending to be a tough guy, don’t you? 🤣 and also putting words in others mouths.

Fuck Nazis and kill them if you see them. I just don’t want unhinged people like you anywhere near actual power since you think you can just force elected representatives to do what you like.

you think you can just force elected representatives to do what you like.

Imagine having elected officials doing what you like. Instead they do whatever corporate donors pay them to.

Best to let capital sort it out - wouldn’t want to enforce the will of the people or anything.

In freedom democracy burgerland, the average citizen has 0 influence on their elected officials decision making, and must resort to hoping they do something effectual. This is good and rational.

In authoritarian, freedom-hating China, a recall vote can be initiated against a politician at literally any time by their constituents if they feel the will of the people is not being enacted. This is horrible, and bad.

Crylaugh emojis are not the flawless cover for being flustered that you seem to think they are.

Because authoritarian governments aren't known for poverty 👍

I guess at least when you complain about it, you can just die instead of having to live with it.

Okay so address the point without latching onto the most extreme conceit they made. God forbid anything happen to a coal baron senator.

With all of the power of the executive branch, the democratic party apparatus, and the leadership of the body they are members of, you can excuse zero attempts to coerce their votes?

You live in a democracy? When is the last time you and everyone else in your workplace got together to make a decision democratically instead of that decision being made unilaterally?

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ you really like feeling opressed, don’t you?

Things can immensely suck, but don’t act like it’s a dictatorship. It cheaps the word when there are ACTUAL dictatorships in the world

we literally have the largest per-capita incaceration rate in the history of the modern world what the fuck are you talking about ACTUAL dictatorships

What’s even worse is that the person we’re replying to is likely fully aware of how the US has been sending its military and intelligence forces all over the world for the last 70-80 years to violently crush any movement that opposes it, and yet they still believe that the US is somehow not “authoritarian”

Liberals live in a fantasy world.

Not just psr capita. US has the largest pridon population period
At this point someone should probably dig up that research paper that shows that what the US public wants has no influence on what is carried out by the US state.
bud, you could literally rub their noses in the most solid evidence and they won’t accept it in the same way you can drag a mule to water but you can’t make the jackass drink
Oh I know this clown would never get it, but still
You live in the US which has the world’s largest prison population by both total numbers and percent of the population. Is this the non-authoritarian democracy you’re talking about here?
You sound like you want a Mafia family, not a government....
We are talking about the US state, aren’t we?
You’ve just described grounds for impeachment and removal of the president. The full House and Senate would turn on them at that point.
at which point you have the military arrest all of them and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat