Kara Zaim
KDEIt's coming! The date for the big release of KDE's new desktop environment has been set.
#Plasma6 should land on your computer in February 2024 š¤.
https://pointieststick.com/2023/09/06/september-plasma-6-update/
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Appendix2735 š§@kde @[email protected] That's pretty exciting, but if it needs to bake longer, let us know š
H2207Iāve recently switched from Gnome to KDE in preperation for Plasma 6. Iām definitely noticing some rough edges even on 5.27, so Iām highly looking forward to 6.00
OrbitalMartian@kde This is great news! I enjoy KDE, a little slow on my older machine but itās great compared to others, I canāt wait to see all the new features :) Great work all!
Ticktok@kde @[email protected] excited! Always loved KDE, but finally made the switch to an AMD GPU this month and finally getting to enjoy kde with Wayland and it so good!(once I disabled freesync on my monitors so my computer would stop crashing)
Kunal Agrawal@kde @[email protected] Make it Feb 6th to coincide with Plasma 6.
2Ā¢@kde @[email protected] wake me up when you restore the ability to place multiple application tabs in a single window. Many have been up in arms about the inability to use different backgrounds on different desktops for years. But the loss of the ability to combine applications in tabbed windows is a more serious regression in my opinion.
Bro666Rude, but a teachable moment:
This is our standard answer to people who need reminding that KDE is a community powered by volunteers and that each contributor works for free to bring you the best software they can make with the means they have.
Maybe Iām very dumb, but I donāt even see the utlity right now, or how that could even workā¦
@Sina it did work. I used it. It's apparently not for you. Some people like to organize their displays by grouping particular windows together. Tabs are used for this in many applications such as browsers (try it). KDE extended this capability across applications but the feature disappeared with one of their downgrades about the time they removed the ability to set different backgrounds on desktops.
So I assume you are working on the needed code to reimplement that? Let me know if you need any help with it.
@fckgwrhqq2yxrkt why "reimplement" it, Sina? I suspect whomever removed it is better qualified to fix what they broke - being already familiar with the code. Until then I'll be fine without it.
Thatās the spirit!
PseudoSpockCareful, you might get told youāre being rude by someone who doesnāt care for honest feedback. Happened to me.
@PseudoSpock already got the "why don't you do it yourself" bit for mentioning this regression.
JiÅĆ Å tefka@kde @[email protected] I'll finally be able to switch to Wayland!
I really miss my keyboard shortcuts... (I use multiple keyboard layouts and the shortcuts aren't consistent across them - it's fixed in Qt6)
David Zaslavsky@kde @[email protected] Hooray! Very excited for this
Watch this end up like the KDE 4 fiasco. āWe removed everything you loved, aināt it great!ā Please donāt let me down again, KDE.
Another rude and disinformed post. Please refer to this.
It's coming! The date for the big release of KDE's new desktop environment has been set. - KDE Social
Itās coming! The date for the big release of KDEās new desktop environment has been set. #Plasma6 [https://floss.social/tags/Plasma6] should land on your computer in February 2024 š¤. https://pointieststick.com/2023/09/06/september-plasma-6-update/ [https://pointieststick.com/2023/09/06/september-plasma-6-update/] @[email protected] [https://lemmy.kde.social/c/kde]
If you were a fan of KDE 3 and got hit with KDE 4, you would remember how awful that was. [CoC doesnāt prevent that truthful statement] Simply removing features due to a lack of resources is [censored for your unfavorable CoC]. Donāt release until it is equal to or better than your previous release [Constructive advice]. So what if it takes 10 years. Releasing less ready software, as in missing features, is how you got KDE 4 and Wayland. [Another truthful statement.]
And one more edit: Using a code of conduct to deny the problems with previous releases and honest criticism is, shall we say, [censored again due to your unfavorable CoC]. Itās already been announced features are being cut. So how am I wrong here?
Watch this end up like the KDE 4 fiasco. āWe removed everything you loved, aināt it great!ā Please donāt let me down again, KDE.
How was that rude, I didnāt insult anyone. I even said please when asking not to let me down again. If you want to deny KDE 4 was bad, go ahead, but that is an honest criticism (and one shared by many, as Iām sure you are aware), but to call honest feedback rude is disingenuous. I donāt appreciate you changing the context to try to vilify me. Lastly, the CoC is never mentioned on the KDE Community Wiki until ā22:08, 12 December 2019ā Vinzv talk contribsā 6,507 bytes +3,285ā Migrated content from manifesto.kde.org over hereā, which is long after KDE 4, which is already listed on that same page as āHistorical Informationā as far back as 2011. So from what I can tell, KDE 4 was probably never covered under the CoC, donāt think it existed yet. So it wouldnāt be protected from honest feedback, if that is what the CoC is being used here to prevent.
noncommutativegeometry@PseudoSpock @Bro666 I am just reading this as an outsider, but I can say that if the first message was something like "I hope this time features are going to be preserved. I still remember the transition from KDE 3, where I lost x, y and z" it would have sounded different than "watch this end up like the KDE 4 fiasco". In this second sentence I assume that your expectations are already set, for a bad release.
Now I'm genuinely curious: is something important to you being removed from Plasma 6?
Janne Oksanen@kde @[email protected] I have a good feeling about this. I think 2024 is going to be the year of the Linux desktop.
I used to think it might 2026 (the first year after Windows 10ās demise), but seeing how increasingly shit Windows 10 is update after update, (werenāt they only supposed to be security patches now?) they might just force an unprecedented number of ppl to switch.
I think that KDEās track record shows that devs do not remove stuff just because. Quite the contrary.
But sometimes stuff does get removed and often it is because or it is unmaintained (and been so for a while), or because it is built on some old technology that cannot be replicated in the new environment without a complete rewrite.
In both cases, the reason a feature is discontinued boils down to a lack of resources.
Fortunately, the solution is simple: do your part.
KDE is a porous, grassroots and welcoming community. Join us and become part of the effort to build one of the largest and most diverse collections of end user, publicly-owned, free software projects in existence.
I know, I know: ābut I canāt codeā, etc., etc. But there are many things you can do to help. You can help organise Akademy 2024, you can translate menus and system messages, you can write documentation, draw wallpapers, design icons, edit videos, support booth staff at events, triage and report bugs, or just donate and contribute to financially supporting devs who still have to hold down pesky day jobs that get in the way of coding for KDEā¦ The list goes on and on.
The point is, regardless of your level of technical knowledge, the more resources you free up elsewhere, the more time the people who do know how to code will have to maintain and translate software and features in the new Plasma 6 environment.
What was the purpose of this message? Was it to prevent conversations about concerns and worries in this thread? Because it seems unnecessarily defensive. Is there something we should be worried about?
Awesome stuff everyone, cheers to KDE ā¤ļø
I really couldnāt get into KDE before. Iāll give it another go when 6 comes out.
Thatās how I felt with KDE 1 and 2. I left it alone for a while and recently came back to KDE 5 after getting a steam deck and now Iāve switched my desktop to it.
William Andrew Conna@kde @[email protected] will Kubuntu 24.04 also use KDE Plasma 6? š¤
I wouldnāt expect so. Firstly, the deadline for packages getting into a distro is usually several months before the release date, and secondly that theyāll likely (understandably) cautious about an x.0 release for production.
@milliams If Kubuntu 24.04 uses KDE Plasma 6, they could use KDE Plasma 6.1. But we have to follow the best procedure of Kubuntu decision. šš¼
Iād love Plasma if they removed like 2/3 of the options and made the default look a bit more modern.
Gnome is a little too minimalist for my taste, but the default is good enough.
Getting Plasma to behave and look in a way that doesnāt annoy me is possible without installing anything extra, but itās a chore. And I hate that bouncing loading cursor with a passion.
Iām genuinely glad thereās an alternative to Gnome, though.
Gnome is a little too minimalist for my taste, but the default is good enough.
Getting Plasma to behave and look in a way that doesnāt annoy me is possible without installing anything extra, but itās a chore. And I hate that bouncing loading cursor with a passion.
Iām genuinely glad thereās an alternative to Gnome, though.
I like all the options and use a weirdly high amount of them. The default look is a bit windowsy and would be nice to flip through 8 preset layouts and the default themes.
HeavybellWhy wish for less options AND a default look you like when you could just wish for the latter and ignore the options?
if you like the current look, then you wouldnāt even have to see the options, because you wouldnāt be trying to customize it.
but youāre arrogant enough to assume that if you donāt need them, then I shouldnāt either
ComradeKhoumragThe point of kde plasma is extensive customizability and aesthetics at the cost of performance. I donāt like default kde, but after tweaking everything with kvantum manager I canāt go back
There is no sacrifice of performance. Plasma is one of the lighter desktops out there and having lots of options does not impact that. We are also increasing efficiency across the board thanks to the Eco project.
And here I am looking into swapping KDE for a window manager.