Ilon Militantti

Huge number of the people on this planet live in condition that the wealthier ones would consider collapse of civilization - and they have a good life.

Many many people consumes way less than any climate model requires to tackle climate change and produces much less CO2 than the ecosystem can absorb - they also have a good life.

So, what the fuck is so difficult here, to make the change that is needed?

Climate change is a social problem, a class problem, it is not environmental problem. It is all about rich and powerful people being stupid, lazy and greedy and scared to change their dangerous and totally meaningless way of living.

The whole environmental/climate discourse is fucked up. All the solutions are here and already available, just distribute power and wealth equally.

Take an example from people that already know how to live without destroying everything.

And do you know what, all those billions who already know how to do it would have even better life without the rich creating just problems.

Sep 7, 2023 at 4:55amWeb
Show threadIivana LemmetyinenSep 7, 2023

@ilonmilitantti Ok, this was so much spot on that I will start distributing this quote:

"Climate change is a social problem, a class problem, it is not environmental problem. It is all about rich and powerful people being stupid, lazy and greedy and scared to change their dangerous and totally meaningless way of living.

The whole environmental/climate discourse is fucked up. All the solutions are here and already available, just distribute power and wealth equally."

Show threadAndrewSep 7, 2023
@ilonmilitantti We do have some solutions. But, as you say, what we're dealing with fundamentally is a class problem, and a thorny one at that. And the only solution that I can see is revolution. Incremental change though democratic means won't be quick enough
Show threadAndrewSep 7, 2023
@ilonmilitantti I am never not surprised at the fact that it's 2023 and we have complete ecological collapse on our doorstep and all we're concerned with is celebrity gossip.
This is an interesting solution, and a low tech, anarchist one at that, and I think it would be readily achievable, with some tweaks.
We either fundamentally change the system with a view to becoming sustainable and ethical, or we perish. It's as binary a choice as that https://twitter.com/JeffAndDonkeys/status/1693350598387568758
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It's not too late to reduce emissions now. We saw what happened in the early days of Covid. Earth everywhere showed immediate recoveries. That part has been the best example of "memory holed" in my 76 years of life. We could make improvements by next week. Visible improvements.

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Show threadToni AittoniemiSep 7, 2023

@ilonmilitantti The most sickening trend has been for the wealthy nations to refuse committing to any targets that can’t be met by the less developed ones.

The hard fact is that for a carbon neutral planet by 2050, the leading industrial nations have to be carbon negative: Enough to offset the developing world to catch up using fossil fuels to get where we are today.

Decarbonization requires highly efficient industrial economies. Period.