We need to have a talk, and I’m having a really hard time having it with my awesome hacker friends, because everyone is super duper emotionally invested and is deeply hurt by it.

I hope you all aren’t - because it involves all of us and it’s important. It’s not about any of y’all individually or your hard community work.

The talk is about how to make all of our cybersecurity conferences and events and meetups more accessible and conformable for young hackers because I’mreallysosorry, we’ve somehow become Old, and the stuff that we are ingrained with as “hacker culture” like movies, music, and memes all were created before they were born - and they may or may not have any emotional attachment or enjoyment of them at all.

That’s the conversation we need to have and that we are all responsible for and I swear it’s not aimed at any conference or person because we are all in this filter bubble of watching the Matrix and listening to Prodigy and remembering the hamster dance and all of that stuff while awesome was like a quarter century ago.

Part of building a community is thinking about including everyone and their culture under a mantle of good ethics and goals. So we really, really need to start having a chat about when we lean on the 90s hacker aesthetic and memories to the exclusion of people under 30. I had a wake up call hearing some students complaining about it.

@hacks4pancakes I have experienced that kind of disconnect often with my apprentices and young graduates at work. They don't seem to have any particular attachment to 'hacker culture', and are generally more integrated in their peer groups than me or my ex-teen hacker friends were at their age. It feels like hacking (often specifically penetration testing) is more of a career choice than a lifestyle. No judgement, and of course everyone is different - this is just a trend I have seen in the last 10 or so of mentoring junior colleagues in security
@luigirenna @hacks4pancakes not in the industry, but from the outside it seems like some of that is probably that with ubiquitous surveillance it's harder to commit the sort of minor not-really-crimes that get the skillset for pentesting, these days.
@NireBryce @hacks4pancakes on the other hand, there are plenty of platforms where people can learn on crafted VMs. Things like hackthebox.eu offer gamified experience linked to learning track. I reckon getting started has never been so easy
@luigirenna @NireBryce little bit of both. Lots of structured training,icy less opportunity to think outside the box. And it shows.

@hacks4pancakes @luigirenna

that feels like every industry right now though...

I don't think it's a bad thing, but a lot of places aren't acknowledging it and that's leading to a lot of friction everywhere

@luigirenna yeah, it's that too I suppose -- you don't need to necessarily be surrounded by mentors in the culture anymore, online or off