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Kevin RussellJust to clarify, when the CBC first put up their graph of the area being destroyed by wildfire, the graph only went up to 6 million hectares.
Its 16.3 million burned now
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@kevinrns I saw the “since 2016” and immediately thought there might be some data shenanigans going on. I remember some bad wildfires in 2015 - were they intentionally excluding to make this year look “historically bad” when really it’s just a once-a-decade thing?
Oh, look, the 2015 fires were so bad there’s a Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Canadian_wildfires
“…and more than 1,900,000 hectares (4,700,000 acres) of forest had burned.”
Oh. No. Never mind.
@kevinrns (which puts 2015 near the top of the “2016-2022” curve, but 2023 still blows it out of the water.)
Is this serious comment, or is it humor about getting confused and not understanding. Yes the 2015 fire was a crisis.
The largest fire season, worst before now, was 35 years ago. It was 7.5 million hectares.
This years climate catastrophe, burned _more_ hectares than the _worst_ fire season in Canadian history --- BEFORE THE FIRE SEASON BEGAN.
This Climate Wildfire Catastrophe has burned 16.3 Million Hectares.
This is the real deal, worse than climate warnings.
@kevinrns It was humor about getting confused. Yeah, it’s *bad* this year. I’m in Oregon, and we’ve had skies twice this year that we’re “as bad as a wildfire a dozen miles away from a few years ago” just from the Canadian fires. I truly can’t comprehend how bad it is up there. (And I’m going to be in Vancouver next weekend.)
BC has been particularly hard hit, I do not envy seeing it. We have to act as if the alarm we have waited for has rung, because it has rung. Global warming has shoved the balance, forests world wide are in danger even without burning, dry to the roots.
We must end carbon fuels at speed.
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)And not only is the fire season worse than all previous years BEFORE THE SEASON EVEN STARTED, its still roaring now.
It is still roaring now 300,000 Hectares were added to total this week.
There are still 1000 fires now, 10 times larger fires than previous years (each fire is BIGGER) and 700 of those fires are classed "Out of Control"
This is the graph for today.
Sept 3rd, the fire season is over. (Note the grey lines of previous years are flat, burn area not growing)
#Climate
Autumn GrayYou can read stories on growing drought worldwide, the growing drought is shoving the balanced system sideways. 18 months ago four of the worlds great rivers ran dry on three continents. Europe's forests are in danger of dying where they stand.
There are hundreds of millions of hectares of forest across four time zones.
The CONDITIONS have changed. Australia burned, California.
CO2 HOLDS heat, like a car at Walmart with the windows up.
I just found your reference to "since 2016" -- it was in the CBC article on the fire crisis, the article with the graph.
The article is from early June, even though the graph is brought up to date, multiple times a day.
Jasper 🍉@kevinrns what is normal? Like the 2016 is way more than a year in the '80s or something.
@kevinrns yeah, this year is extreme compared to_other_ already extreme years in the graph..
PampaThis is a choice. Just 2.33% of votes cast at the last election were for the Green party. How did all the parties campaigning for degrowth do combined?
The green party is useless, designed to suck votes and do nothing. Useless.
But this is not about voting, this is the aliens have landed. This is Pearl Harbor. All must demand of whomever is seated to ACT.
M_A_L@kevinrns terrible... in spanish sense...
Steve8282@kevinrns PP will make these the salad days.
All consequences are world consequences.
If PP wont build it, we close the country down, get prepared.
Not waiting for elections
@kevinrns The new Convoy.
Lichen Cats@kevinrns I really hate misleading graphs. It really shows you where their loyalties lie.
@lichencats no no,
The graph is growing with live reported data. It was fine to show the graph only going to 8 then, never had it been that big in history.
This is the graph now, Sept 3rd, picture below, link is here to live version of the graph, its still up.
(Just on btw, the wording of the article on retrospect is hard to take in its coy businesses as usual reassuring wording.)
Link to old article, but up to date graph of the burn size.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-fires-map-air-quality-1.6871563
Canada's wildfires: Where they are, how much has burned and how it's changing air quality | CBC News
The summer of 2023 is shaping up to be the worst wildfire season in recent years. We're tracking where all the fires are in Canada, how much land has been consumed and how these fires are affecting air quality.
O'Shaq Hennessy@kevinrns and that's.... bad? that sounds kinda bad
Yes, falls on the "wish this wasn't happening" side of outcomes.
The size of the destruction is alarming, the difficulty fighting them is alarming, the depth of the fire, into the roots, is alarming. Trees, bush, ground cover and soil are dry, kindling dry, like Australia, like China, like Germany saying their forests are so dry they may die before burning. Alarming.
Climate caused global warming has dried out forests disastrously.
It's an alarm, we must act.
Nicole ParsonsThe fossil fuel industry funds only the best catastrophes.
It's time the oil industry was held to account for its pollution.
Sure justice, but right now, at factories and manufacturing plants build. Build all the solar and wind needed to provide any energy called for, so carbon fuels are not burned. Today, right now, like a hurricane has just swept through, like Pearl Harbor.
All of it, now.
20 billion trees.
SteveBolognaInsist. like we insist during a hurricane, for action.
meganisalanis@kevinrns hugely effective showing this way, over the text... and so ominous and sad 😔
@meganisalanis
This is the graph right now on the CBC, in their original article from June 9th.
The graph is now 16M on the side axis.
I find the image alarming, its bizarre, like a rocket launch, it is bad news. It is stilll raging tonight more than 700 fires out of control, now 16.4 million Hectares.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-fires-map-air-quality-1.6871563
Canada's wildfires: Where they are, how much has burned and how it's changing air quality | CBC News
The summer of 2023 is shaping up to be the worst wildfire season in recent years. We're tracking where all the fires are in Canada, how much land has been consumed and how these fires are affecting air quality.
@kevinrns absolutely alarming 😪
Thanks for sharing this graph too. Best wishes 🙏
Mark@kevinrns wildfires are caused by lightning or humans, not climate(chance). This year especially a lot of wildfires where arson.
There is no increase in wildfires looking at numbers or acres burnt globally.