uphillbothwaysSep 2, 2023

Millennials didn't kill the 'organization man' after all. Federal data reveals it was the boomers all along

Long before quiet quitting, boomers rejected "working for the man," says UNC sociologist Arne Kalleberg, "which is exactly what’s happening now."...

https://fortune.com/2023/09/02/job-hopping-millennials-boomers-switching-careers-disloyalty-organization-man-bls/

Millennials didn’t kill the ‘organization man’ after all. Federal data reveals it was the boomers all along

The supposedly disloyal millennial really followed in the steps of younger boomers, the Bureau of Labor Statistics finds.

Fortune
Show threadoakey66
The reason there’s no organization man is because people in the current times have been exposed to the lie that is being part of the organizational “family”. Since employers are willing to discard employees like they are trash and cut pay and benefits while spouting the rhetoric of being a part of the family really laid bare how all of it was a PR campaign. I will change jobs as frequently as I need to keep advancing my career. If employers don’t deliver on their promises, I don’t need to show them any loyalty.
Sep 2, 2023 at 6:45pmWeb
Show threadfunkless_eckSep 2, 2023

yeah, loyalty is earned. You can’t get loyalty unless something bad happens and then the company makes a decision in favor of the employees at the expense of the company

I just never see that realistically happening

Show threadbobmanSep 3, 2023

It usually doesn’t, but it is possible.

Not with any publicly-traded corporation, though. They are legally obliged to do whatever will maximize profit for their shareholders.

Show threadbobmanSep 3, 2023

I just have to say, while most companies operate exactly how you describe, that is certainly not all of them.

It’s sad. Even the word ‘company’ should mean that you’re in this together. It’s what it means in militaries. It’s what it means in social settings. It should also mean it in businesses. It used to, at one point. At one point people actually did work together and enjoyed a fair return on their labor. It was the only way to reliably get things done. People had to be dedicated.

Show threadoakey66Sep 3, 2023
It’s true but this is capitalism. The companies that still believe that either have a massive market share or a unique product (while it lasts) that allows them to do this. But most companies are driven by stock market share holders or by VCs. They’re all ruining it for everyone. Companies can’t afford to have bad years. If they do, employees pay for it through reductions in wages/benefits (collectively; not individually) or through all out layoffs. That always puts the employees in the line of fire. So a lot of companies can’t take care of their employees because they will get punished by their wealthy benefactors.