Bennett MorrisonSep 2, 2023
Per Axbom
AI won't steal your job.
A person using AI to fake your skills will.
Then the AI will cause them to make a devastating mistake.
And they won't know how fix it.
That's when you get your job back.
Remember to request a higher salary.
Sep 2, 2023 at 4:44amWeb
Show threadPer AxbomSep 2, 2023
This post truly spiralled in an unexpected way and resonated with people. Quite a few taking it very seriously though 😅

Believe me, I am well aware that a 6-sentence tongue-in-cheek post does not qualify as an in-depth analysis of labor practices in relation to AI across the globe.

Here's a bit more explanation on where I'm coming from as I wrote this:

https://axbom.me/notice/AZMMC5rXJatSkXHPHs
Per Axbom (@[email protected])

@failedLyndonLaRouchite I believe the point here is that I of course have no knowledge of the future. Much like anyone. My post is a play on this very common message being repeated across the web...

Show threadfingerling potato 🥔Sep 2, 2023

@axbom but perhaps this sequence actually loops indefinitely with the connection between each loop being the AI learning your fix so your skill can be stolen again, etc. etc.

So make sure to request a salary high enough to cover your repeated severance periods?

Show threadPer AxbomSep 2, 2023
@fngrlngpote

Yes, a possible timeline. Will depend on how costly the mistake is, and how quickly regulation will prevent the tool from accessing content without consent.
Show threadMorten Juhl-JohansenSep 2, 2023
@axbom @fngrlngpote There is already a lot of... let's just say it: Shit... that just becomes the price of doing business and, absurdly, the price of being a customer. There are coding sweatshops too, and they have a lot of the rush-it-out-of-the-gate issues cheap clothes do.
Show threadPer AxbomSep 2, 2023
@mjj @fngrlngpote

Agree about this point. The amount of sh*t in the world will also escalate and multiply out of control. But there will also be more fatal, dangerous and embarrassing mistakes because of it. I'm now thinking for example of the lawyer who used ChatGPT to draft his case.

I believe these mistakes will slow down the specific threat everybody keeps talking about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65735769
ChatGPT: US lawyer admits using AI for case research

The lawyer told the judge he did not know content from the artificial intelligence could be false.

Show threadhazelnot Sep 2, 2023
@axbom @mjj @fngrlngpote God imagine suing a company cause you got injured and this is your lawyer 😬
Show threadcͨ oͦ N ᴛⷮ rͬ aͣSep 2, 2023
@axbom in the hands of someone who knows how to use them as a collaborative agent can do some pretty astonishing things. ChatGPT and I learned about and we're creating polymorphic code within a couple hours of learning it existed. Anyone who uses it to generate and simply Ctrl+C Ctrl+V was doomed to fail anyway.
Show threadEyes Wide OpenSep 2, 2023

@c0n7ra @axbom yeah. It can do amazing things after harvesting the data of millions of people that put in labour and work and never consented to having their data used like that.

Happy you are on top of the pyramid and get to use that harvesting tool to keep your position. Good on you.

Show threadcͨ oͦ N ᴛⷮ rͬ aͣSep 2, 2023
@WideEyes @axbom your obviously smart and educated on the topic, if in this age of instant data you haven't considered your data security or how and where it may be harvested then your willing ignorance donates it. Otherwise me like you have services and systems we use that WE KNOW harvest some data and we take measures to mitigate what data is and isn't harvested. I understand you but our system was designed with these loopholes for those atop it to skirt it to further invest it
Show threadcͨ oͦ N ᴛⷮ rͬ aͣSep 2, 2023
@WideEyes @axbom the strength in this system is that by using tax loopholes those billionaires will continue investing that money in the country and it will pay dividends to the govt and the people magnitudes more than if it was initially paid in taxes...America was built on having your cake, eating it too, and selling smart bombs and jets from atop all the while policing conflicts. I'm not saying it's right it just is...
Show threadEyes Wide OpenSep 2, 2023

@c0n7ra @axbom I hear you. I’m happy that you can see it as well. I respect that a thousand times more than those in denial or unaware of the machine they live in.

Best of life wishes to you. That we may all one day live in something better for us all. : )

Show threadcͨ oͦ N ᴛⷮ rͬ aͣSep 2, 2023

@WideEyes @axbom nah man it has sickened me for more time than I care to admit wasting on it. I try to take advantage and learn where I can while trying my hardest to walk that line between clever and insidious hoping to never find myself in party making this world worse.

Protect ones self, prosper, and bring something to this world worthwhile....if we can all do that we'll have a huge W

Show threadThe OwlChemistSep 3, 2023

@WideEyes @c0n7ra @axbom “never consented to having their data used like that.” I’d be really interested to see what the truth of that is. Maybe 1 in 1000 is very concerned with their data privacy, and 999 out of 1000 click through prompts and accept whatever terms pop up.

Show me exact evidence of a major AI using stolen data that was 100% not shared with or bought from a company like FB/Twitter/Google/Amazon that openly harvests and sells.

Show threadPer AxbomSep 3, 2023
@owlchemist @WideEyes @c0n7ra

Not sure anyone has to show evidence when OpenAI themselves openly admit to using copyrighted work?

What they are doing is claiming that this falls under the American Fair Use doctrine. The many ongoing court cases will tell us more, although I expect it can take 5-10 years for many of those cases to be finalised.

When it comes to image generators there have been many instances of copyright symbols being generated, as well as the Getty Images watermark. An image, or text, of course does not need the copyright symbol to be considered copyrighted, but it is the type of evidence that gives certainty to the supposition.

Researchers have also shown that chapters of many copyrighted books, such as Harry Potter, can be reproduced *almost verbatim using ChatGPT.

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2023/05/03/openai_chatgpt_copyright/
OpenAI's ChatGPT may face a copyright quagmire after 'memorizing' these books

This top-drawer AI tech has a major science-fiction habit

The Register
Show threadcͨ oͦ N ᴛⷮ rͬ aͣSep 3, 2023
@axbom @owlchemist @WideEyes that brings a strange question to my mind. Is training an AI model akin to a human learning? Meaning that just bc something is copyrighted doesn't exclude it from taught to people. Obviously the issue is the $ being made by ChatGPT but the thought still intrigues me. Im leaning toward the idea that if your data is copyrighted and you wish to exercise complete control of it you must be obligated to somehow disable that data from be scraped from the web.
Show threadPer AxbomSep 3, 2023
@c0n7ra @owlchemist @WideEyes

Scraping from physical books is almost as easy now with immediate OCR. I take photos with my iPhone to copy text. By extension, the way to copyright a work then is to hide it. And nobody can buy your photos for use in their online articles....

But I agree, all of these things are historically social constructs by humans to protect something referrred to as intellectual property, and it's an interesting thought experiment to consider if we have to reinvent what author ownership even is anymore.

I've been blogging since 1997 and of course have always been aware that my content can pop up most anywhere. The way for me to demonstrate ownership has been to actually publish online to create a visible trail of references with dates. That also means I haven't expected monetary compensation for my writing though - which writers tend to do.

Still, as an advocate of ethics I am fond of the idea of consent, and am less impresssed when others make money by using my content without my prior approval. These days I use a creative commons license. If OpenAI were to follow that, their tool would have to apply the same license when ingesting my content. But all this mostly goes to show that licensing carries very little weight in the real world. Power and social standing does.
Show threademberquill Sep 3, 2023
@owlchemist @WideEyes @c0n7ra @axbom "1 in 1000" is still millions of people, by the way.
Show threadB.I.L.L. the AlienSep 2, 2023

@axbom

This right here. This is gold. 👍

Show threadthe Stripey GoodnessSep 2, 2023
@axbom when the plumber charges a couple hundred bucks for a fix that takes fifteen minutes, we have to remember that they're charging for the years of experience and training that made it into a fifteen minute job.
Show threadPer AxbomSep 2, 2023
@stripey

And a fifteen-minute job that won't come undone in a week, but actually hold water (pun intended) for many years.

That's definitely how I reason around my own rates.
Show threadthe Stripey GoodnessSep 2, 2023
@axbom it has taken me an embarassingly-long time in my life to internalize this reasoning for myself as well.
Show threadPer AxbomSep 2, 2023
@stripey

There's also the part where you are happy that people appreciate you and it feels embarassing to charge money for that.

The struggle is a testament to reflection around fairness and honesty. 😊
Show threadCassandrichSep 2, 2023
@stripey @axbom That's not my experience with plumbers. My experience is that they charge $250 to come out for a 15 minute job that needs a specific tool I told them to bring, without bringing the tool, and try to charge extra for the 30 minutes they spent getting lost on the way. 🤡
Show threadjenifer daniels ♎ :verified:Sep 2, 2023
@axbom ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Show threadJillSep 2, 2023
@axbom Exhausting to live in a tech bro world.
Show threadDrew MochakSep 2, 2023
@axbom 1000%
Show threadDeterioratedStuccoSep 2, 2023
@axbom
Hopefully they haven't decided to use AI to run their HR function.
Show threadJargogglesSep 2, 2023

@axbom
The sad truth is that a lot of companies don't care nearly as much about the quality of your work than you do.

Ever notice how a staggering number of execs and upper managers have no idea how to word an email? Isn't communication supposed to be a huge part of their job? They don't give a fuck if an LLM spits out word salad responses and they sure as hell don't care if it spits out spaghetti code.

Show threadcostrikeSep 2, 2023
@axbom It's spelled "demand."
Show threadMark LoundySep 2, 2023
@axbom @stevehadden This is wishful thinking. Far more likely is that management will see stats showing that the AI makes far fewer mistakes.
Show threadZip ZorillaSep 2, 2023
@axbom
This I'm just hoping people realize how much of a fantasy it is before someone gets hurt.
Though I wonder first how many people will get in trouble for things said on their behalf in emails they didn't read before sending. haha.
Show threadClaudio Zizza 🦜Sep 3, 2023
@axbom That's not how you get your job back.They'll either hire someone else who's cheaper or they'll settle on a quick win or workaround.
Show threadMSep 4, 2023
@axbom I agree. We will see more and more projects to audit/debug AI-written software