There's something that's happened recently over at the #arrl, which is the national #hamradio organization for the USA.

ARRL identified, by name, clubs and organizations that produce educational videos as "being in competition with" the ARRL "Learning Center".

ARRL then retaliated against these clubs and organizations, calling them up and stating that these organizations *would be excluded from ARRL publications and partnerships*

Firsthand, #qsotoday and #ratpac are affected.

This is bad.

@abraxas3d

I haven't been in the ham game long, but one of the things that really bothered me was when they took David Casler's videos for General and Extra and stuck them behind paywalls.

I don't think it was a hostile takeover or anything, I'm sure Dave had his reasons for it. It just really rubbed me the wrong way that they went and made ARRL membership a condition of viewing probably the best YT classes I'd found.

I got lucky and a local club was giving them out on flash drives though.

@abraxas3d

In any case, it all stinks of impending enshittification. As someone new to radio, my first impression is to steer clear.

@abraxas3d where did they identify groups?

@mattgriffin in the case of #qsotoday ham expo, with a phone call. Bob Interbitzen called Eric Guth to school him on how it was gonna be.

RATPAC's lead, Dan Marler, received a series of aggressively negative emails from David Minster. The latest round of decisioneering at #ARRL is that no one from the League should accept invitations to present at RATPAC, and an email directing some divisions to "not use any RATPAC videos for training".

Specifically singling out RATPAC as competition for LC.

@abraxas3d damn, that's petty.
@mattgriffin excellent and accurate assessment.

This isn't the end of the list, but these are the ones where I have first person visibility.

There are a lot of upset folks out there, ranging from QRZ to organizations that have yet to realize they have lost ARRL as a partner because ARRL has decided their "Learning Center" has to "win" against organizations that promote, defend, and educate about #hamradio in the US.

@abraxas3d this reminds me of an old joke about academia:

Why are departmental politics so intense? …because the stakes are so small.

Someone at the ARRL must be living in a fantasy world about the immense political and financial power of the amateur radio community and believes that the hobby’s great clout leaves room for lots of division and partitioning of its young and growing demographic.

@abraxas3d @mattgriffin Definitely going to be checking out RATPAC!
It is often the sign of an organization that doesn't do things well, and knows it, that they take actions like this.
@abraxas3d @mattgriffin I wish I were surprised. Just another reason why they'll never get another dollar for me.
@abraxas3d @mattgriffin Though, it does occur to me that I might want to donate the cost of one ARRL membership to RATPAC should donations become a thing that is possible. :)
@Stormgren @abraxas3d @mattgriffin this sounds like another "we need money" vs. serving the community moves.
@ai6yr @abraxas3d @mattgriffin Oh, yes, very much so, but they're blowing their own foot off. I'd 100% restart my membership if they'd improve and stop doing stuff like this.
@abraxas3d where are you seeing this via the ARRL? web page, QST, other? Would like to see this first hand.
@abraxas3d arrl has *always* been a cash grab for publications. It has not *ever* been an organization for and by amateurs.
"Join up and we will allow you to purchase our published lists of relays and repeaters" is how it *started*
@abraxas3d what the?? That's crazy. Totally against the spirit of #hamradio
@abraxas3d
Being divided? Look for who is conquering...

@abraxas3d What a short sighted tactic for them to take. I’m sick of companies treating humans like a resource to extract, and it looks like ARRL wantonly does this and then wants to leverage their “importance” to block others from their “market”. They’re doing an excellent job of making sure I do not join their org.

“The more you tighten your grip, Roderick, the more licensed amateurs will slip through your fingers”. - a Princess, probably

m.ai6yr.org/users/ai6yr @k2za @abraxas3d It sounds a sad situation. I spent my life teaching and we've just about finished the sixth HamCram course for new licencees:to me it seems self-evident: you should use what's best for the students.

This is rarely material prepared by others, as there's the little stories and examples from your own experience that add memorable point-of-interest to the presentation. Also the continuity (why one slide follows another) that will differ from one presenter to another. If a pre-canned preseentation aligns with your mental flow - great, but otherwise the presentation can seem disjointed.

Here the NZART provide the syllabus, a study guide, and and practise exams and are happy to let branches run "HamCram" when and how they like. After all, what matters is the numer of new licensees. To that end we stream our's over Zoom which can help those in other cities "attend". They may take the exam at another branch - doesn't mastter -- it's still one more call added to the "Fellowship of electronics wizards" - apologies to Bill N2CQR and his great podcast and sitesoldersmoke.blogspot.com.

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@abraxas3d and anyone. Is there any hard info from the league about this? I’d like a bit more than hearsay before I bring it up with the leadership in my area because this is unacceptable and I will not keep paying for a membership if it continues.
@abraxas3d This is common. So-called "nonprofit" organizations ignore their missions and charters and become self-interested. Alas, here in the US there's no governmental enforcement mechanism to make them toe the line; it's up to the members.
@abraxas3d No, it is ridiculous. This is characteristic of a non-profit that has acquired a bunch of bloated management (ever hear of Wounded Warrior? That was an example of what happens when you put a bozo in charge). I'll write a letter to the board, hope others will as well.

@abraxas3d

ARRL are being petty little man child's, they should be asking theses people, clubs. etc to participate in their "Learning Centre"

I personally find some things to grasp in the ARRL handbook and I look else for it to be better explain in terms I can understand.

@abraxas3d would like to see some receipts on this before jumping on a critical bandwagon. Seems odd.
@abraxas3d what the actual fuck?
@smitty never a dull moment with ham radio organizations that start with the letter A.

@abraxas3d

If they keep this up the argument could be made they're not acting as a non-profit and perhaps their status should be re-evaluated

That would likely REALLY screw them over.

I mean the IRS was the ones to put Capone away....just saying.

@nq4t there's so little oversight of non-profits, it's really sad. Foundations (like ARDC) especially can act in repugnant ways and very little can be done to stop it.

What's offensive to me is that ARRL is the org that (for now) gets to pick who represents amatuer radio in national and international venues, as if they were acting as an amateur radio advocacy group.

You can act like an advocacy group, or you can act like a bay area startup. Trying to do both means you understand neither role.

@abraxas3d wow, I can't imagine the AMA (model aviation's analog to arrl) doing that. That's seriously messed up. Any details on specific content that got them motivated to do that?
@abraxas3d Years ago I learned the ARRL is primarily a publishing house. Our club tried to sponsor ham magazines in local libraries. All of the other organizations donated some or all of the fee when we told them what we were doing. ARRL charged more because it was not going to a ham. I have not been a member since

@abraxas3d This is such an odd way to find out about their Learning Center...goes to show how far they have to go for publicizing their own membership benefits.

But this is pretty sad. Dave Minster is very vocal and has actioned on his support and collaboration with content creators, but with this logic they're also the competition. it's a shame because growing those relationships to leverage the immense discoverability YouTube has over their own website is imperative to grow their own base.

@n0ssc well said. It's been a weird week for sure.

The value being delivered to members is now defined as coming at the expense of supporting members.

This is cannibalizing their own market to have a market staff controls.

This is *exactly opposite the advice* the audience delivered at HamCation 2020 ARRL forum.

@abraxas3d I'm not challenging you to defend your stance, but do you have a link to something that backs this up? Where did they do this identification?
@smitty I can put you in touch with Dan Marler and Eric Guth when I get back from IWRC2023.

@smitty in the meantime, this was independently confirmed here https://www.qrz.com/articles/node_1693429915 and here https://www.kb6nu.com/is-this-good-business-or-boneheaded/

It’s been more than a month since I spoke up about this very disappointing development. I told the truth, the story stood up to scrutiny by others, and the response from ARRL HQ staff has been to insult me (“a liar”, “don’t work with her”, “has trouble with the truth”) instead of fixing the failure.

Issue #27: Building our Radio Future -- Together! - QRZ.com

@smitty yes, you are challenging me to defend my stance. You are asking for yet more writing, as if even more writing would somehow make a difference.

I’m not going to post privately shared emails without the express permission of the people involved.

I have described the contents of the phone calls and the emails accurately. These things happened, were not positive, reduced engagement, and damaged relationships that took time to build.

I don’t want an ARRL that acts like this.

@abraxas3d @smitty

That was an interesting read. Thanks for sharing. Though it was a bit too apologetic or allowing in my opinion. It's time to stop giving the league a pass for their poor behavior and failed leadership. And I don't see it changing anytime soon. They are awash in their own power (even if just perceived) and as long as that persists nothing will likely change.