warpslideMore of them
CaptObviousTruer words were never written.
Agreed. Why are you getting downvoted though?
Thanks and who knows? Probably trolls with nothing better to do.
Maybe because people that aren’t autistic don’t want to be treated like you feel you’re being treated. Strange, right?
here we see the violence inherent in the system. help, help, I’m being downvoted
so your response to being accused of being inconsiderate is more of the same, which serves to further accentuate the point?
How exactly am I being incosniderate here?
Found the troll
Flying SquidThis is why I keep telling my daughter that she shouldn’t try to be like the “normal” kids in school because she’s not doing anything wrong and they’re doing a lot of things wrong. She’s never going to be like them anyway, and that’s a good thing.
I’ll never understand eye contact like wtf are you doing
A lot of non verbal communication happens through the eyes and surrounding muscles, it’s useful to understand people’s state of mind when they speak to also understand what they’re saying non verbally.
HauiYou mean if you actually understand that language. Otherwise its just wild guesses (which is also the case for those who „know“ the language).
I’m just explaining the reason why people do it and no it’s not just wild guesses as many emotions are communicated extremely clearly through non verbal language. If you’re trying to do a deep analysis then sure there’s a lot left to interpretation, but it’s the same thing with verbal language and implied meanings…
Sure. Thanks for explaining. We‘re on the same page here.
i’ve read that 90% of social communication is non-verbal. It’s awkward because you know you are being studied and not just the content of your words.
If it can reassure you, it’s not an active thing, our brain just sees signs and does the interpretation of how the person feels all by itself, only people who really studied non verbal language can push it further and start to analyse little things like pupils becoming larger even when lighting doesn’t change just because the person is interested in what you’re saying or people playing with their hair more than usual when attracted by the other person…
I had a communication class in university and the teacher was a psychologist specialized in non verbal communication, it was super interesting the few times she talked about it!
If it can reassure you, it’s not an active thing, our brain just sees signs and does the interpretation of how the person feels all by itself
This varies from person to person. Personally, I'm alexithymic. I had to study body language and facial expressions actively in order to stop being completely blind to other peoples' emotions/mental states. I solely relied on verbal communication to interpret peoples' intentions for the first 25 or so years of my life. Made a lot of shit really hard!
Doing much better these days though.
Oh yeah sorry, I should have specified that I talking about the majority of the population where it’s something that just happens without thinking about it unless you’re looking at very specific cues…
killeronthecornerIf the content is lies then that other 10% is real fucking useful
Except there is much more “truth” in nonverbal communication. It’s much easier to “lie” with words than it is with body language.
Most people don’t really even make an effort to control their presentation when communicating, except in the sense that they may try to control their emotions.
Wear sunglasses. It puts a stop to a LOT of problems.
Studied 90% subconsciously too. They don’t really know or understand they are judging you like that. Based on the FEELINGS of how their subconscious picked up your social clues, shapes an image of you that will last the rest of their lives because they can’t remember details.
yeah, i don’t want to stare into somebody’s soul just to order food. insane.
Eye contact is fucking LOUD. I can’t hear you or think when staring at your eyeholes.
Just preparing to kiss you :)
Lucia [she/her]Why is “Us and them” thinking so strong among autistic people?
DessertStormsI think you're confused - it's ableist society that others and marginalises us, we're just finding our people and identifying with each other.
Bullshit, you’re being elitist
As an autistic person, yeah they are being elitist and it’s shockingly common….
We aren’t better or worse just different man
Yeah, It’s very cult-like as well
Yeah, It’s very cult-like as well
Its human nature to be very us vs them. Everyone has an “other” they would rather see removed or oppressed. The most inclusive person ever wouldn’t mind Nazis being removed if only for purely rational reasons.
What I’m saying is your “us and them” is the most Neurotypical thing to do.
Spends entire conversation talking about how they’re so much better than normies because they don’t do irrational things
Proceeds to justify elitism with irrationality
Oh gosh, when people try to change topics without a definitive closure to the previous topic it’s so frustrating. I’m fine with conversation, but if folks would please just assimilate structure within their minds, prior to speaking, it would be great all around for everyone.
StumblinbearI’m sorry I just have ADHD. It’s better if it takes my medication, though!
As if we don’t want to finish topics. There’s just too many of them to keep track of!
See, this is why I keep insisting that the worst part of my ND is the bureaucracy. Convincing government pencil pushers and other instances that no, I really can not function in a society built for and run by unstructured, unfocused, unreliable, indirect, eyeball gazing madmen, and I absolutely need assistance or you’ll have to shove me into a psych ward.
As a person with adhd, I same-feels this so much. Like, the system to get meds where I live seems purposely designed to prevent adhd people from accessing meds
It’s crushing how hard it is. I also have a phobia of phone calls so that doesn’t help.
RavindraNemandiI feel this deep in my soul. Im just starting to make headway on getting help after years of struggling.
roux[he,they]I felt this when I was on Lexapro for my severe depression. I gave up on jumping through hoops and weened off because I didn’t also need micro anxiety attacks from feeling like I was gonna run out of meds while waiting on bullshit red tape theatrics.
We can thank all neurotypical junkies that like the side effects of adhd medicine like increased heart rate and jitters.
“Just act like us, and it wouldn’t be such a problem (for us)!” 🤡
“Sure, pass me the script and teach me every rule of society that nobody knows about and I might, just might, internalise and incorporate them at some point in the next sixty odd years.” Smh
Society has no script because the natural world has no script. Do you want a script for the weather too? Do you ask for a list of the future outcomes of other random things like coin flips?
People have different random desires and beliefs. You can’t predict that. Learning a lot from very few context clues is what separates humans from other animals and machine learning. Here’s a clue for you: most people also don’t know what’s going on, they just act like they do.
moosetwinOP, did you make up this conversation?
No, the fictional characters did it
No, just a picture I found on the internet
It’s exaggerated truth. Probably from years of interactions and distilled into this meme. It’s not suppose to be a verbatim conversation.
sigmaklimgrindsetWym made up, I have this conversation in the shower every day after work.
With my shampoo bottle, because it never looks me directly in my eyeballs.
I just read that as “I’m acoustic…”
DestideDigital people unite
blackluster117Analog forever, baby! Resistance is futile!
Resistance is inefficientcy
Me watching a documentary about Papuan jungle tribes: “Wow their rituals are baffling and strange, but Im sure they make sense in the context of their culture.”
Me watching people sing happy birthday: “Wow their rituals are baffling and strange, but Im sure they make sense in the context of their culture.”
I was of the impression that individuals with autism had worse memories than average.
I think it’s what is remembered. Autistic people can remember enormous amounts of inane detail about a subject they hyperfocus on, but can’t remember who they met 2 mins ago. Neurotypical people can remember names, but not the electrical wiring diagram of a toaster they had 20 years agos. So they say “autistic people have bad memories.”
Thanks! What’s the average recall accuracy of said toaster diagram?
Neurotypical people can remember names
I think I’m “nuerotypical” but I often forget people’s names. I think that’s pretty…typical as well.
The two people i know with autism can remember a few categories of things. They remember those things very very well (different for each of them) but … then they cant remember anything else.
This looks like it was written by someone who looked up stereotypes of autism.