Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Windows 11 to get people to ditch Google

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Microsoft really needs an antitrust smackdown with their repeated behavior.
That didn’t work in the 90s.
In retrospect, DoJ didn’t go far enough back then and ignored Microsoft’s anti-competitive behavior with BeOS.
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Part of it was Reagan massively weakened antitrust law after Ma Bell was broken up.
This is why we can’t have good things.
Ma Bell, the ill communication
Looking at the lobbying with the MS-Activision mess, and how broken the government here is. I’m sure they would of gave in.
Which sucked because BeOS was really good for its time.
I was so excited to try BeOS back then. I don’t think I ever got my hands on a copy, but it just looked so good.
I got to play with a BeBox for a few hours at a friend’s store and it was pure joy to play with compared to what Apple and Microsoft had to offer.

For anyone curious about BeOS: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzosnPSETzk

Also there’s apparently an open source version of it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-zgv0CZfco

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Source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_litigation

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It might work if the fine was a couple hundred billion.
So does Google though id we’re being honest.

Microsoft saying “stop using Google” is actually totally fine with me.

But only if they’re saying “go get Firefox.”

Shouldn’t Apple be the focus of efforts?
Why not both?
Well one is trying to crack down on people using adblockers and the other is lobbying governments they don’t pay taxes to do that they are allowed to continue using forced ethnic slavery to make their products.
You think Google is going out of their way to ensure their devices are made in ethical factories?
I didn’t think those happened anymore
If you need more ammunition they recently also changed it so all links in Outlook opens in Edge even if it’s not the default browser. You have to go to settings and find an entirely separate default browser setting to stop it.
I switched to Thunderbird because of that bullshit. It’s getting worse. I’ll be looking for a good Linux distro for my next laptop.
I mean on one hand, terrible behavior. On the other, good.
I mean, if it’s just a switch to Bing it’s not really any better.
I mean I see your point, but you cold also argue that anything that can weaken a monopoly is a good thing, in the grand scheme of things
Who’s monopoly are we talking about? If that’s the goal then Firefox + DuckDuckGo would be more sensible right?
100% but Microsoft and Google splitting 50 - 50 would be better than the current Google 90 - 9.9 - 0.1 it currently is.
Of course it would be more sensible, but that was not the point
DuckDuckGo’s search results suck, is there another alternative I can use that gets its indexes from google? I don’t care about censorship
I think Ecosia pulls results from Bing if that’s any better? I use them occasionally but generally prefer DDG.
I use StartPage but it’s incredibly slow.
Ah yeh, I tried StartPage for a while. IIRC the image results page wasn’t so great. Not many filter options and so on.

I mean, if it’s just a switch to Bing it’s not really any better.

Search wise? No. Competition wise? Yes.

Google has too much power.

Just a reminder that if you’re using Windows, it’s not your property but Microsoft’s one
No different than Chrome.

They’re talking windows in general

This goes for both chrome and bing: If a service is free, you are the product.

If a service is free, you are the product.

Linux?

You are the tester lol
True for Windows as well. Ever upgraded to a new version before the first SP? Linux just gets upgrades a lot faster than Windows (and I mean the conservative distros like Debian. Bleeding-edge distros are on a completely other level).
Don't even need to upgrade, you get to test monthly if you're not brave enough to hang a month behind.
Microsoft have been known to ship a product with thousands of known bugs on its release date. In the networking space, there were technet CDs that were released to fix all manner of known bugs just so the corporates wouldn’t have to wait for a Service Pack
Perhaps a better statement would be, if a for profit service is free, you are the product. Obviously it’s possible for someone to make free stuff if they want to, but if someone is making money from you using something, but you aren’t paying them, then they’re making that money by selling someone else access to you.
Linux is just an advertisement to contribute to open source

Right but licenses for pro are £200 RRP.

Don’t then beg me to use your services, just fuck off and let me use Windows how I want

While both companies are predatory I would never use Edge because its so bad and bloated its not even funny.
Edge is just Chromium now.
I want the old Edge (pre-Chromium) back. It is the best EPUB reader. Simple yet elegant. Sad they doesn’t bring it back.
Why not just use Calibre?
Calibre performance is worst then the old Edge in term of loading time. The old Edge loads almost instantly. Plus the interface is more user friendly then Calibre.
And I feel like that happened really quickly. It doesn’t feel like that long ago that Edge was a nice, nimble browser. Not this bloated naggy beast it is now.
I find Edge better than Chrome at the very least. Granted, I don't use either as my main options, but between the two Edge seems more responsive and lighter than Chrome (and before anyone misunderstands, I know they both use the same engine, I'm referring to ... well, prior to Google, I would have referred to it as the chrome, but can't really do that now... the application around the engine).
Edge is better than Chrome. Which isn't that hard these days...
Really? I have tested Edge on other people’s pc long time ago. Whats your opinion on it.

I daily edge at work because I just wanted to and I like how it integrates with our domain. It’s fine, but I did have to spend some time turning off weird things like price trackers or whatever it was.

I still use Firefox at home though.

I use firefox all the time but I get random freezes and stutters when I’m watching YouTube. Is it because of the number of addons I have?
Run Firefox with all add-ons disabled for a baseline check. If not, turn on/off hardware acceleration settings

Nothing Microsoft does is good. Nothing google does is good.

Choose an alternative that values you.