@gruber Damn, Daniel, am I going to have to test this now? Or wait for USB-C. BTW, the anger and frustration over USB-C seems to have settled—I no longer get the same volume of email about it or read the same frustration in bulk online. The reason? Cheaper cables and more of them. People were particularly angry when it was both *confusing* and *expensive*. Also, OWC has a quite affordable Thunderbolt 4/USB4 cable line-up: https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-thunderbolt-4-cables
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@slaine 18 inches is usually long enough to connect the phone, seated in a dashboard mount, to connect to the USB data port, but YMMV. Works in my car, not in my wife's.
@flargh we’ve a little compartment with a Qi charger and usb port for car play ( no wireless CarPlay unfortunately). Ideally I’d have a 3 or 4 inch cable to keep it neat and tidy. I’ve a Velcro strap around my metre long one at the moment.