infyrinAug 29, 2023

What kind of defenders can you not tolerate?

https://lemmy.world/post/4086995

What kind of defenders can you not tolerate? - Lemmy.world

People who defend shoplifting from stores. I had a minor debate with someone who was pridefully going on about how we should steal from stores to affect the profits of the CEO and “The Man”. I had to inform them that stealing from stores won’t necessarily affect the payroll of the corporation. It will only harm the stores and the employees inside. Because each and every store is operating on a budget of their own and what they sell determines said budget. So if groups of people decided to steal from that store, sapping up the budget and hurting sales, then it’s going to hurt the pay of the people working there. Making shoplifters look both like an asshole and a dumbass in one.

Show threadbane_killgrindAug 29, 2023

it’s going to hurt the pay of the people working there

So there are a lot of reasons to be against stealing, but this isn't one of them.

Wal-Mart and County-Wide Poverty https://aese.psu.edu/nercrd/economic-development/for-researchers/poverty-issues/big-boxes/wal-mart-and-poverty/article-wal-mart-and-county-wide-poverty

Corporate owned stores like this are the ones that people are talking about stealing from. The facts are, the wages that are paid by Walmart can't possibly be less. Walmart enjoys https://businessmodelanalyst.com/is-walmart-profitable/ being the most highly profitable in the list mentioned.

If Walmart paid less, they couldn't maintain their staffing levels. The workers would be even more highly impoverished, if they choose to stay.

Show threadinfyrinAug 30, 2023
Stealing is still not the answer.
Show threadomnibeltAug 30, 2023
That’s a easy statement to make with a full belly and no worries about where your next meal is going to come from.
Show threadinfyrin
It’s an easy statement for me to make when I am responsible with my finances unlike most. You must be bitter about something, is it because you yourself, suck at financing so you’ve gotta steal? The fuck out of here.
Aug 30, 2023 at 12:14pmWeb
Show threadomnibeltAug 30, 2023

Yikes that’s a lot of assumptions you made about me from one sentence. Personally I’ve never had to steal, I grew up middle class and had the opportunity to build up savings to become financially independent, just like you apparently.

I just learned empathy while growing up, so I can feel bad for people who didn’t have the same opportunities I had, and now have to resort to stealing.

Show threadbane_killgrindAug 30, 2023

So you defend a corp taking advantage of poor people because poor people did it to themselves.

Despite the fact that there is empirical evidence that when a Walmart is opened in some towns, local businesses are priced out, wages are reduced in that town and money is funneled away to the corporation instead of being spent locally.

Poor people don't want to be poor, the work available to them has shit pay. Should millions of people just move away from towns when a Walmart opens up? And where would they go? And how would they afford to go?