MrHandAug 27, 2023

Why is the government targeting incels?

https://lemmy.world/post/3921612

Why is the government targeting incels? - Lemmy.world

You may have heard of the “Countering Violent Extremism” program under DHS. They’ve deployed the tactics used to fight terrorists against domestic citizens. For example, incels. When I posted on the web forum incels dot is, I didn’t know it was Department of Homeland Security operation against men who say they are romantically deprived. I didn’t know I was interacting with larping feds who encourage extremist rhetoric. Consequently I was put on a watchlist and am subject to intrusive monitoring. I share a lot of my experience here. https://twitter.com/WrongedIncel [https://twitter.com/WrongedIncel] My question is, is it far that the government is so targeting incels?

Show threadJordan LundAug 27, 2023

Have you LOOKED at the recent shooters?

npr.org/…/jacksonville-florida-dollar-store-shoot…

White male, early 20s, lives with mom and dad, writing manifestos… Why SHOULDN’T the authorities be looking at incels?

Show threadMrHandAug 27, 2023
I lived by myself until feds harassed me from my secure job (back in early 2022) and then started subjecting me to sleep deprivation this year.
Show threadMontaggeAug 27, 2023
And how did they do that exactly?
Show threadMrHandAug 27, 2023
They’ve shutdown all incel spaces across the web and worked with tech platforms like reddit to likewise ban incel spaces. They set up honeypot forums in their place operated by feds so ANY would be incel poster gets scrutinized. When the person ends up in that space and says something a fed doesn’t like, they’re immediately hacked and subject to NSA tools. I became aware of this when, a month or so after posting on incels.is, I started receiving “advice” based on content retrieved from my phone!
Show threadMontaggeAug 27, 2023
And how did that cause you to lose your job and sleep?
Show threadMrHandAug 27, 2023
explained upthread jackass
Show threadMontaggeAug 27, 2023

Except no one is doing sonic attacks on your apartment. Insomnia is linked to schizophrenia and can make schizophrenia worse.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4855992/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5614792/
https://www.healthline.com/health/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-and-sleep
https://www.sleephealthfoundation.org.au/schizophrenia-and-sleep.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0920996419305237

Treating Sleep Problems in Patients with Schizophrenia

Background: Sleep disturbance is increasingly recognized as a major problem for patients with schizophrenia but it is rarely the direct focus of treatment. The main recommended treatment for insomnia is cognitive behavioural therapy, which we have been ...

PubMed Central (PMC)
Show threadMrHandAug 27, 2023

Considering the resources the government has, they can induce insomnia on an individual in order to get them labeled as schizo, and as I was under intrusive monitoring that might’ve been just the intention so I end up hospitalized and deprived of 2nd amendment rights. Assholes. Indeed, from the FBI’s “Making Prevention a Reality” report, they pretty much say they desire an individual get involuntarily committed solely to deprive them of 2nd amendment rights. That’s very close to saying they’ll undertake action to have that outcome.

Show threadMontaggeAug 27, 2023
That would be an incredibly bad idea as most people with insomnia do not have schizophrenia
Show threadMrHandAug 27, 2023
…just the ones they want to drive to the madhouse.
Show threadroguetrickAug 27, 2023
To be clear, you cannot be held without a judge's order even if you go in voluntarily. They will not keep you for long and based on your symptoms may not even admit you but instead give you resources to use after visiting the ER. I think you're in a good position to head in before a real crisis that will get you involuntarily committed.
Show threadMrHand
For sure, but you can drive someone to insanity by depriving them of sleep. I say I am subject to intrusive monitoring. I realize that if I try to express this to normal everyday people, I will come off as schizo. On top of that to be going around sleepless – a mental zombie – is going to make me look crazier, and make everyone around me think I’m a loon. Maybe this leaves a “trail” of mental-health issue history that, should I snap in public or something, can be used to commit me.
Aug 27, 2023 at 5:35amWeb
Show threadroguetrickAug 27, 2023
You will be told that you are having paranoid delusions by healthcare professionals. I am a healthcare professional and am telling you that. We don't expect you to believe us. But what I'm also telling you is that not matter what, you know that you are heading to a crisis without any sleep. Not believing me about that, or other professionals about that, doesn't change the fact that you need help with what you're experiencing.
Show threadMrHandAug 27, 2023
I’m not having paranoid delusions. This was my experience: I posted on the web forum incels.is – run by DHS – and have since been subject to intrusive monitoring which escalated into direct fed harassment of me in various ways. Part of this “intrusive monitoring” entails monitoring of my communications and online activity. Hence it’s not out of the realm of possibility that some of the people here eager to label my claims as paranoid/delusional are feds…
Show threadroguetrickAug 27, 2023
I understand that, I'm not particularly trying to build a therapeutic relationship with you where you to prevent you from thinking I'm a fed. I'm giving you honest advice and expectations as to what you'd experience if you go to the ER, which is what I recommend.
Show threadMrHandAug 27, 2023
lmao