JustinHanaganReddit is a Dying Mall
sycamoreBut really, where else can you go to read a bunch of eight year old tweets?
Tumblr. Also, 8 year old Reddit posts… You can actually find anything old in Tumblr… and vampire role play.
R0cket_M00seThis is two months old and a report about the exodus that’s already happened.
Reddit didn’t die, it probably won’t anytime soon.
Malls are still around in some places too, but nothing in there is worth going to. Maybe Mall of America if you want to chance getting stabbed or shot, other than that they’re either glorified office space or entirely abandoned. But, like reddit, they’re still technically there.
dillMy city has malls. They are just big buildings for housing an aunties anne’s pretzels, a filthy play area for kids, and any other sucker who is still renting a retail space.
henfredemarsMy local mall has churches that rent out the retail space. It’s a weird stort of community center.
Exactly. From the article:
As far as Reddit’s fate is concerned I predict that what will happen to it is the same thing that is happening to Twitter and has already happened to Facebook and frankly, actual shopping malls. The business side of things will churn along divorced from the content which will become ever more generic and culturally irrelevant. The users who stay on Reddit will be of the unadventurous variety, not inclined to make waves or analyze their habits.
EdibleFriendThat’s just a horrible analogy. Yes malls are basically dead but still technically better. Reddit is just as popular and active as it has ever been. Sure some people, like us, left. The vast majority stayed.
The ‘mass exodus’ never happened. The entirety of lemmy put together is the size of a small niche sub barely anyone actually knows about.
Yeah it is not a good analogy because when it came to malls something more convenient and easier for everyone to use became a better option with the rise in internet shopping. It’s not like malls made people angry and people left it for something that wasn’t as convenient to use.
People who moved to the fediverse aren’t representative of the average user who just wants a community in a niche area of interest to use, and never cared that strongly enough to abandon it. Most do not want to go through the growing pains of trying to grow a new community on a new platform and less content.
The mall pictured in the article, Rolling Acres Mall in Akron OH, was the largest of three indoor shopping malls in the greater Akron area. I don’t know if you’ve ever been to Akron, but we didn’t need three goddamn indoor shopping malls. We’re down to just one now, which seems appropriate.
mrbubblesortFacebook never "died", but no one goes there anymore either. Reddit will be the same.
Gsus4What is Facebook these days? My grandma spends all day on it, she hardly speaks…just swiping…when I sneak a peek, it’s just chain-mail-like bullshit one after the other with a few disguised ads for things she can’t afford in the middle…ugh.
lol, exactly. that is literally reddit for me now as well
Yea, I checked worldnews today: there are these bot-like irrelevant comments on major subs, small subs abandoned…askhistorians is a little slow…maybe people are on holiday having fun and such :D
It’s a haven for some older gen x and boomers. That was peak social media for them and that’s where they keep in touch mostly.
ddhWhen I go to the poker machine hall, it’s the same. Keep pressing the button waiting for that all-too-elusive ‘win’ to come around.
I remember describing to my mom what Facebook was becoming back in like 2013/14 and she goes “Huh, sounds like what happened with email.”
The service went from useful communication to social media style chain forwarding nonsense pretty quickly, and they went the same way with FB.
And still email is not dead yet! I hope it’s starting to become clear to people that protocols last much longer than platforms, even if platforms look like they can test new things faster.
This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥Fuck yeah email!
Good thing we got that sorted in the early stages of internet before corporations got their hands on it. Otherwise we’d have to create separate accounts to send and receive emails from gmail, outlook, and yahoo.
I don’t know about that, email is still great at what it does. It’s less that it died and more that people moved on to more real-time communication that fit their needs better, with email still being used for what it is actually good for.
Oh absolutely, it’s still highly used in a professional environment. I just feel like personal email went through the same thing and now that social media exists it’s just another way to communicate again.
infyrinE-mail is never going to lose relevance. It is too heavily used for it to go away. It’s used to register to many, many places online.
More than that, it’s THE communication method for businesses.
And universities. Email is the digital version of the memorandum, which is an essential tool for any large organization.
I never said it was, just that communication technology all get used for the same time wasting shit until the next thing comes along to replace it.
Facebook is just being treated as a place you glance into to see how everyone you know is doing. Nobody really uses it for anything beyond that.
And then you can’t even do that because Zuck filled the feed with 99% ads and “recommended” groups. Sure, there’s a friend’s feed now, but it doesn’t load 95% of the time. Facebook isn’t dead because people didn’t like the site, Facebook is dead because Zuckerfuck drove a spike through its heart and then lit the corpse on fire after dousing it with gasoline.
Isn’t Digg still around? It will exist forever probably, but it is definitely a husk of its former self.
meseek #2982About as long as a seagull pecking away at a whale carcass. It certainly didn’t help them but it would take Musk level of stupid to end them.
Who knows. Could be the new Facebook. Feel like that shit fell off pretty fast. Went from everyone on the planet using it to only your weird uncle pretty quickly.
Dying or not, their leadership made clear the plan is full steam towards enshittification and monetization, so leaving early is for the best.
Reddit has really declined after the blackout, some subs are not even posting anything usefull or just trolling. My home subs on reddit dies out after i scroll past 500, no more new or upvoted content.
gabe [he/him]I think inevitably Reddit’s utter collapse will be power mods causing intense drama as well the mods who are actually capable of curating content properly having left. I was surprised no hate subs spawned from the migration away from reddit, but I realized something. The people who would likely moderate hate subs now moderate the mainstream subs. Shit is going to hit the fan.
Hah, so Reddit will force the crybabies to grow up or die trying, win-win!
I think the next time the owners do something stupid there will be a similar exodus, and there will already be larger alternative communities available than there were last time and more people will leave and stay left. I think it could also happen the same way more than twice.
That’s what happened with twitter and mastodon. People will come in waves.
Agreed, I think Reddit is going to die in fits and bursts and the fediverse will continue to build momentum with each wave. I think it’s arguable that we’re already starting to see this shift happen with Twitter and Mastodon. A behemoth like Reddit was never going to die overnight, but the users who really care have left or will leave soon. And it’s those users who made Reddit what it was, not its scale imo.
Uranium3006the best of the best are slowly decamping one by one. I see old communities on here all the time
No, it isn’t.
These posts are exhaustingly far from the reality of the situation. Please don’t make the fediverse kick the puppy that is your optimistic opinion, OP.
How so? It doesn't say "Reddit is dead" just "Reddit is trending towards less cultural relevancy"
https://www.statista.com/statistics/443332/reddit-monthly-visitors/
Their traffic is unaffected. Reddit has never been part of the public conversation, outside of its reused content on blogs and autogenerated YouTube content. It has never had cultural relevance due to its conspicuously self contained nature, despite its size. Shops have closed but are reopening and profits are consistent(ly absent) month to month, the exodus affected little. If I were to amend your title, it would read “Reddit has always been a dying mall.”
You’ve described the situation as dramatically as possible to the crowd most excited to hear it and I’m just tired of hearing “Reddit is dying.” It is exhausting. The article is a great summary of everything I hate about Reddit because it is intended to be.
Reddit has definitely had cultural significance. That’s why AMAs used to happen there so often and it was in the news for months after the Boston Bomber. It’s like 4chan in that it seems super niche but it pops up every now and then in the cultural zeitgeist, sometimes for bad reasons like The Donald leading the charge for a Trump presidency and sometimes for good reasons like the niche hobby subs.
harmoneaEdit: OP downvoted everyone who disagreed with him.
Sigh. Please OP, we're not doing that here. Downvotes should be reserved for trolls and the counterproductive. This comment with its snappy "kick the puppy that is your opinion" is not the most productive, but there are downvotes from OP on way more innocuous things, even one comment that agrees reddit is dying but in a different way than the linked article envisions.
Please leave that behavior on reddit.
You're being "counterproductive" by whining about downvotes, and should probably be downvoted.
How do you know what did they vote on?
Dunno about over on lemmy, but on kbin we have an "activity" link on each comment exposing all voters.
Oh wow! Do you also see Lemmy users there?
Vote federation can be a little wonky, but generally, yeah.
Lemmy, can we do better? I came here to hang out with a scrappy new community of people excited about cool shit. Instead it’s a bunch of people bitching about Reddit and X. C’mon let’s make this place fun and exciting.
Sir, this is a technology sub/comm. It must be filled with articles about social media businesses at all times, or the ancient ones will get hungry.
NumbersCanBeFunYou’re already going in the wrong direction by expecting Lemmy or any of its instances to try to be the gold standard. The whole point of a federated system is that we can have multiple points of entry into this space if one site should go down or become otherwise toxic to its user base.
AKA don’t put all your eggs in one basket.
mander.xyz is awesome, if you select by local you only get science posts from communities that are visited and commented on. programming.dev has some good communities too, that probably need some good comments and content so people don’t give up on them.
You need to pick your home instance well to have a good head start, otherwise, you’ll spend every day blocking communities that take up space in you discovery feed when you select by “all”.
remoteloveThere are plenty of budding communities in the federation. The Reddit and X posts are slowing down, so that is nice. Not so long ago, Lemmy was absolutely flooded by /c/memes, but other activity has started to balance it out.
An even better sign is that OC NSFW creators are showing up here more and more. Where they go, people follow, no questions asked.
Don’t forget jerking off over Linux
Art35ianI started a new job a few months ago and was on my first business trip with four colleagues recently. To make conversation I asked if anyone used Reddit.
• Two dudes had heard of it but never used it. • One dude said he uses it infrequently because it’s turned to shit. • One dude said fuck Reddit and it’s API bullshit. • I said fuck Reddit and it’s API bullshit.
Thats my anecdote. 100% of the people in that car didn’t use Reddit or now hated it. Probably 3 months ago that same car ride would have had three people loving Reddit and advocating it to the other two.
Despite your experience it’s alive and well. If reddit is a dying mall what is Lemmy? To scale it’s like an unmaintained Porta potty.
I hate reddit, but let’s not be ridiculous. It’s more than fine. Google has really gone to shit. When people search for things they put in site=reddit as a more reliable way to find real information.
Lev_AstovMalls didn’t die overnight, you know. It’s a downward spiral that takes many years when it starts.
Is there a downward spiral, though? Or did they just get rid of a bunch of (from their perpective) whiny, entitled, free riding, old-timers?
Have you been there lately? The content is garbage. It’s just barely relevant reposts and dying communities with nothing but anger threads.