For accessibility reasons, arXiv is starting to publish HTML versions of papers. https://info.arxiv.org/about/accessibility_html_papers.html đź§µ

#math #papers #openscience #academia #arXiv
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I think this is interesting and welcome, especially on mobile devices. It is not without problems to want to quickly check some fact on your phone, download the PDF, go to landscape mode, find the right location in the paper, zoom in, etc.
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HTML papers for beta testing - arXiv info

The promise would be that in HTML, everything is reformatted to look great on any line length.

But there is a kind of integration attack going on: Once we have the HTML version, why not enhance the paper with things PDF can't do? After all, HTML5 offers limitless possibilities to make the 3D figures interactive, run simulations, have the examples to be toys you can play with, etc.

Once these seemingly harmless new features are there, who would want to go back to the PDF version, which is a
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static, cumbersome and arcane? Once we are there, we will definitely need versioning of publications because if papers become software, they will have bugs and need bug fixes.

I feel very insecure about this future. I am unhappy with how static and old-fashioned it is of us, to stick to this A4-PDF-paper format, for documents which are consumed on laptop and iPhone screens, and it never really fits and scrolling and zooming and whatnot.
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@tomkalei I don't see much differences. LaTeX is also some kind of programming resp. markup language similar to HTML. Scripting plots or diagrams is not unusual. Putting the LaTeX source files under version control is common, especially if you work collaboratively on a paper. Publishing the final version is similar too.

@zuphilip my point is not the mode of presentation or production, but rather if there exists such thing as a “final version”. How would #academia change if all research was published like software, release 0.11a_p2 etc.

And then it’s a new discussion for super conservative fields like #math. We have some state of the art papers that are 50+ years.

@tomkalei When the publishing workflow stays the same, then I don't see why there should be more versions published. Instead of clicking a button generate PDF you (or the publisher) click on a button to generate HTML as output format.

@zuphilip @tomkalei I'm in a completely different field (tech law), but there are definitely (small and big) points in previously published papers that I would like to update. Maybe a law has changed, a talk with a colleague changed my perspective, there's a nuance that I didn't see at the time.

Not sure how this would work, e.g. peer review for each small thing could be cumbersome.

@Gerard @zuphilip and it breaks citations that are not to specific versions.

And if this becomes the norm, the culture changes. If you can make updates later it’s less of a problem to jump to potentially wrong conclusions now and update later.

@tomkalei @Gerard 1) I think that such living articles/books are an exception. 2) Just changing the format to HTML will not create more living publications. 3) Citations to printed books w/o mentioning the specific edition is similar bad. 4) I doubt that anyone creates wrong hypothesis on purpose to change later. 5) All published version will stay visible and therefore also any mistakes in early versions. 6) I hope that fixing errors is already part our culture also in research.
@zuphilip @tomkalei In response to 4: Peer review should be a extra check in that regard. 6: Agreed. But updates are not, and this is something that bothers me.